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Old 12-01-2012, 01:45 PM   #1
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Sam Smith IMO makes some of the best beer worldwide. I have a sheet that gives most of their grain bills and they are simple beers but I can't seem to get that flavor nailed. They mostly use EKG and Fuggles

Is it the water?
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:52 PM   #2
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Water and they ferment in open stone squares.

 
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:00 PM   #3
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What he said. See above.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:09 PM   #4
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Could be hints of oxidation. Jamil Z tells a story about entering some English style beers in competition and how he kept getting dinged for missing a certain English character in them. Next time he entered an old one (oxidized) and won best of show or something like that. So basically what was hints of oxidation from the journey from the UK to the USA were interpreted as English character. He told a similar story of Australian home brewers trying to mimic American styles. He thought their beers were great but they were convinced they were missing something. One of them brought some commercial examples from the US and he told them it was oxidation.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:10 PM   #5
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Do you think the stone fermenter impart anything? I've done open fermentation and pretty much do it for 2-3 days on all my brews

Now if I can somehow nail the water profile
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:12 PM   #6
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2 guesses:

Yeast

Or

Oxidation.

I think many English beers I try are a bit older than they should be, but for many of them, the age means they take on a unique sweetness. I thought it was a feature until I tried a several-years-old Pete's Wicked Ale that was hiding in the singles section of a beer store.

Bewm. Same flavor.

Or, like I said, yeast strain.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:21 PM   #7
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Thanks for the replies.

I think you can rule out the old factor as I've been to England a few times and experienced the same something in flavor. Same thing with the firkins at NERAX
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:43 PM   #8
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I'll go with the yeast and open fermentation as well; their water may be really minerally as well. I don't know if they pasteurize or not (I suspect they do), but that can add a weird flavor to a beer.

Anyway, are you going to pony up the recipe sheet you have or not? That's the real question here. And where did you get it?

 
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:41 PM   #9
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Anyway, are you going to pony up the recipe sheet you have or not? That's the real question here. And where did you get it?
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