Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Beer Discussion > Who here is a sloppy home brewer?
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-30-2012, 10:55 AM   #11
TNGabe
Feedback Score: 17 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,623
Liked 2246 Times on 1519 Posts
Likes Given: 2346

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lgilmore
I don't know if I would call it sloppy. Making beer is more cooking than baking. With cooking you can vary the items a bit and actually improve a receipe. With baking, you have to be more percise. I am an excellent cook and a so so baker.
I've got to disagree 100% on this one. I can throw a beer together or I can throw together some dough and get in the ball park, but if I want to have consistent results, measurements must be made.


__________________
The only thing worse than dumping beer is serving beer you should have dumped.
TNGabe is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2012, 01:57 PM   #12
Homercidal
Licensed Sensual Massage Therapist.
HBT_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Homercidal's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Reed City, MI
Posts: 27,398
Liked 3656 Times on 2487 Posts
Likes Given: 2473

Default

I have been before. I try and do things the right way. I used to be more "sloppy" due to brewing without being totally prepared. i made more less than great batches that way, so I spend more time making sure everything is in place and I have a list to check off now.

Though to be honest, I have made some decent beers by winging it. It's just not as much fun as having everything prepared and thought out. Actual brewing time is cut down drastically when you are prepared too.


Homercidal is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2012, 02:17 PM   #13
bobbrews
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sierra, Nevada
Posts: 4,020
Liked 426 Times on 343 Posts
Likes Given: 72

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TNGabe View Post
I've got to disagree 100% on this one. I can throw a beer together or I can throw together some dough and get in the ball park, but if I want to have consistent results, measurements must be made.
I'll 50% disagree with that concept.

Brewing can be seen as almost a middle ground between cooking and baking. You don't need to be 100% accurate to have an award winning beer. Consistency is great for commercial breweries. But we are homebrewers and we're not brewing the same beer hundreds of times for the public to judge and pay for our product.

To answer the OP's original question. If you're a good brewer, you can wing it and get away with some great beers. But I would not recommend winging it if you're a noob. Learn how recipes/processes work first.
bobbrews is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2012, 02:41 PM   #14
Otterella
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Posts: 32
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

I'm too new to brewing to be this way yet, but it's how I cook and its how I knit, so I don't doubt it will be how I brew when I get some experience. My husband is the exact opposite, though. He's very meticulous with recipes and instructions. Since we brew together, I might wind up constrained by him. He doesn't realize that my signature lasagna that he loves so much would never have happened if I let myself be bound by recipes.
Otterella is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2012, 04:21 PM   #15
JKaranka
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Cardiff, Wales
Posts: 1,180
Liked 101 Times on 94 Posts
Likes Given: 27

Default

I go changing boil length and additions depending on how the thing tastes. Definitively reminds me of cooking (adding herbs to a casserole).
JKaranka is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2012, 04:50 PM   #16
craigd
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 318
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Agree sloppy has a bad connotation - I'm not OC about some things when I brew though. I do measure most ingredients but am not above eyeballing water levels. I also usually leave gravity measurements to the end (if at all) and may or may not bother adjusting with some water if needed. Now, like others if I am trying to replicate something I will get anal about all of it but usually I am happy with getting beer at the end... My day job requires some meticulous granularity of process and I usually prefer to be relaxed about brewing.
__________________
-Craig
craigd is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2012, 05:19 PM   #17
lgilmore
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Marysville, WA
Posts: 606
Liked 33 Times on 28 Posts
Likes Given: 154

Default

"I've got to disagree 100% on this one. I can throw a beer together or I can throw together some dough and get in the ball park, but if I want to have consistent results, measurements must be made."

So you haven't tried different hops or different hops addition times than scheduled? I think you missed my point a bit. You can make slight changes in your brewing and get different results. You can bump up your Ibu's without adding more hops, but adding them at different times in the boil.

Brewing beer is an ongoing process that allows you to make changes to the batch much like cooking. Baking? Once it's in the oven, it's in the oven. Very hard to correct baking after the dough ball is formed and raised. Beer? Flexibility in changing the flavor profile even weeks after the boil.

Hope that clears my comments up for you.
__________________
lgilmore is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2012, 05:23 PM   #18
241
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 661
Liked 81 Times on 62 Posts
Likes Given: 208

Default

I do BIAB so I always just toss extra base malt in at will to help with efficiency. I don't have a scale and try to use the left hand dumbell right hand grain bag measurement system. It's terribly inaccurate. One day I'll invest in a good scale
241 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2012, 12:21 AM   #19
ryno1ryno
Registered User
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 317
Liked 12 Times on 12 Posts
Likes Given: 31

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by craigd View Post
Agree sloppy has a bad connotation - I'm not OC about some things when I brew though. I do measure most ingredients but am not above eyeballing water levels. I also usually leave gravity measurements to the end (if at all) and may or may not bother adjusting with some water if needed. Now, like others if I am trying to replicate something I will get anal about all of it but usually I am happy with getting beer at the end... My day job requires some meticulous granularity of process and I usually prefer to be relaxed about brewing.
You explained my thoughts quite well.
ryno1ryno is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2012, 12:24 AM   #20
ryno1ryno
Registered User
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 317
Liked 12 Times on 12 Posts
Likes Given: 31

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lgilmore View Post
"I've got to disagree 100% on this one. I can throw a beer together or I can throw together some dough and get in the ball park, but if I want to have consistent results, measurements must be made."

So you haven't tried different hops or different hops addition times than scheduled? I think you missed my point a bit. You can make slight changes in your brewing and get different results. You can bump up your Ibu's without adding more hops, but adding them at different times in the boil.

Brewing beer is an ongoing process that allows you to make changes to the batch much like cooking. Baking? Once it's in the oven, it's in the oven. Very hard to correct baking after the dough ball is formed and raised. Beer? Flexibility in changing the flavor profile even weeks after the boil.

Hope that clears my comments up for you.
__________________
How are some way you change flavor during/after fermentation?


ryno1ryno is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Converting from Home Brewer to Commercial Brewer FensterBos General Beer Discussion 11 05-26-2015 03:26 AM
Any sloppy brewers out there? Kmcogar General Beer Discussion 80 08-06-2012 04:59 PM
Is my Flysparging too sloppy? JBrady General Beer Discussion 7 11-29-2009 12:16 AM
sloppy seconds sharpstick All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 4 08-18-2009 02:46 PM
fixing sloppy weld job kcinpdx Equipment/Sanitation 12 01-10-2009 03:09 PM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS