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Old 12-07-2012, 03:48 PM   #41
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Maybe you should get a glass of your beer into the hands of another homebrewer, local brewery, judge or someone. That might help to identify whether this flavor is simply S-04 and it's not for you or something else is going on etc.


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Old 12-07-2012, 03:53 PM   #42
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i'm a little slower to jump on the s-04 bashwagon. how many ounces EKG did you use? did you use a wort chiller? I have gotten tastes from that hop in young beer similar to what you're describing. It fades pretty quick, though.
I only used 1/2 oz of EKG as my flavoring hop with 15 min left in the boil (11 gallon batch). 1oz of Target for bittering at 75min.

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Maybe you should get a glass of your beer into the hands of another homebrewer, local brewery, judge or someone. That might help to identify whether this flavor is simply S-04 and it's not for you or something else is going on etc.
I'm going to pick up some bulk grains from a group buy tomorrow and hope to distribute a few of my beers for comments!


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Old 12-07-2012, 04:12 PM   #43
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I only used 1/2 oz of EKG as my flavoring hop with 15 min left in the boil (11 gallon batch). 1oz of Target for bittering at 75min.
Yeah, nevermind the EKG thing, then!
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:28 PM   #44
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Let us know what they say at the group buy, Im curious if it's a personal distate for S-04 (which I actually quite love), or if it's something else. Id join you for the tasting but VA is a bit far

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Old 12-11-2012, 11:46 PM   #45
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So, any luck at the group buy? what's the taste say now?
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:36 PM   #46
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So, any luck at the group buy? what's the taste say now?
I haven't gotten feedback yet but last night my wife and I each had a bottle of this stuff and it was at least drinkable now. Hopefully after a few more months it will mellow more.

It will be tough for me to use S04 again. Ill use Notty on my next brown ale.
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I used S-04 in my last beer, an oatmeal stout (yooper's, actually!) and it turned out awesome. Best beer I've ever made. Fermented at about 66. I liked S-04 so much I decided to use it in a nut brown ale I brewed yesterday. It's fermenting right now at about 63, but I was shooting for about 66 so I gonna let it warm up a bit.
My first beer I had no temp control and I used notty at 72-74 and it was kinda funky/fruity. Ever since, I started controlling fermentation temp and my beers have been tasting much better.
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I think my problem may have been in the handling of the yeast.

I made an 11 gallon batch with only one packet of S04 yeast so I made a 2.0 liter starter for the yeast which apparently is not a good idea. That's the only thing I can blame this on if the yeast is not supposed to make these nasty estery tasting beers!
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Is it possible that your off flavor could be a result a cleaning agent in your bottles?
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Is it possible that your off flavor could be a result a cleaning agent in your bottles?
No. I have used the same method of cleaning my bottles and equipment for the last 20+ batches, no problem on other recipes.

I soak bottles overnight in Oxiclean (scent free) and then rinse well, drain and heat in the oven at 200F for 30 minutes to sanitize, cool to the touch and then immediately bottle. This works great for me.

Update on the beer: Still pretty awful. I can drink about half a bottle but once it warms up the off taste is pronounced and I dump the rest. :/


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