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Old 11-21-2012, 08:14 PM   #1
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I am looking to build an electric brew system. I have been looking at Kal's design for his PID based system, and like it for the most part. But, I think I may be more inclined to go with a BCS system for automation and potential cost reduction.

I am not seeing any tidy little threads with a complete build list.

Here is what I am trying to accomplish. A 3 Keggle system with a 4500W heating element in the HLT and BK. I plan to use 2 chugger pumps for recirculation through the herms coil and for movement to/from the boil kettle.

I know I need the BCS 460 which is $189 and then 3 temp probes at $22 each.

I am trying to get an overall estimate of what I need and how much this will cost me.

 
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:18 PM   #2
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Should be interesting to watch this build... Good luck man.

 
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:20 PM   #3
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Have you see the Automation Subforum here on HBT?

 
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:40 PM   #4
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Have you see the Automation Subforum here on HBT?
I have, but wasn't able to find what I was looking for. I'm not wanting to go full automated, just want my pumps and elements wired for control.

 
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:09 PM   #5
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Have a look at www.brewmastercontrols.com also. HERMS and RIMS systems ready out of the box.

 
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:55 PM   #6
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I have, but wasn't able to find what I was looking for. I'm not wanting to go full automated, just want my pumps and elements wired for control.
What is your available power feed - 30A 240V or 50A 240V?

I might have a diagram that I've drawn some time ago that would fit your needs.

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Old 11-21-2012, 11:21 PM   #7
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Have a look at www.brewmastercontrols.com also. HERMS and RIMS systems ready out of the box.
Yeah that is cool, but in all honesty if I wanted to spend $2300, i'd just buy the kit from Kal.

 
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:22 PM   #8
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What is your available power feed - 30A 240V or 50A 240V?

I might have a diagram that I've drawn some time ago that would fit your needs.

P-J
Wow, thanks PJ. I have heard great things about you. Your helpful reputation proceeds you.

I will have 30A 240 as my power source.

I am also looking heavily at the Brewtroller setup as well. I am just trying to see where I can get the best bang for the buck.

 
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:29 PM   #9
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Well the Kal kit and the Brewmaster Control system end up with the similar functionality but have many huge differences.

The Brewmaster system comes completely assembled and tested ready for 50A service, the Kal version is 2700 USD ordered ready to run.

Second, the Brewmaster is software based, with many features that physical switches and controllers can not deliver such as email updates, visual charting, a GUI, datalogging, etc. Further it also provides fermentation control and serving temperature control.

Anyway... just an idea if you are having problems with wiring or other technical issues.

Where in Fort Worth are you living, I get down there quite often for work.

 
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:54 PM   #10
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Wow, thanks PJ. I have heard great things about you. Your helpful reputation proceeds you.

I will have 30A 240 as my power source.

I am also looking heavily at the Brewtroller setup as well. I am just trying to see where I can get the best bang for the buck.
Well as it turns out I do have a diagram that I drew in May 2012. It is shown with 5500W elements but that is not an issue. The diagram would be exactly the same with 4500W elements.

Thread: Ready to get this party started - Post #21 < click the link.

You might want to read the entire thread as well.

I hope this is of some help to you.

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