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Old 11-21-2012, 06:52 PM   #11
Sep 2008
Visalia, CA
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If you like your grainbill, keep it. As already suggested, try milling your dark grains separately and adding them right before you mash out to reduce their roastiness somewhat.
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:28 AM   #12
Aug 2011
Chesterfield, MO
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My school of thought on the BIPA style is that it shouldn't just be an IPA with black color. What's color if there is no discernible taste??? If that's what you want then just add some caramel food coloring to your best IPA recipe!

Here's my recipe (also available at

Everyone who tied it fell in love with it. Midnight wheat for color and flavor. Lots of crystal malt but it attenuates well with the right yeast. It has some roasty toastyness but not overdone. Massive rocky head. Killer hop flavor and aroma. Strong bitterness but balanced.

This is for 10G.

18 0 Briess 2 Row Brewers Malt
4 0 American Crystal 15L
1 12 Briess Midnight Wheat
~ 8 Rice Hulls
~ 8 Crystal 120L
~ 6 Briess Chocolate 350 L
~ 4 Crystal 75L

Usage Time OZ Type AA* IBU
first wort 60*min 2 Columbus*~*pellet 12.9* 36.7
first wort 60*min 2 Warrior*~*pellet 15.0* 42.7
boil 15*min 2 Columbus*~*pellet 12.9* 18.2
boil 5*min 2 Citra*~*pellet 11.0* 6.2
post-boil 25*min 2 Cascade*~*pellet 5.5* 0.0
post-boil 25*min 2 Columbus*~*pellet 12.9* 0.0
dry hop 14*days 2 Amarillo*~*pellet 7.0* 0.0
dry hop 14*days 2 Citra*~*pellet 11.0* 0.0
dry hop 14*days 2 Columbus*~*pellet 12.9* 0.0

Mash at 152. Collect 13G. Boil for 60 mins. I used 1056 but I could see any high attenuating yeast working well here. I'd ferment in the 65-67F range if you can.

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Old 11-25-2012, 01:54 AM   #13
Jan 2012
Richmond, VA
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little bit of roast is good, but should cut down those darker malts. i capped the mash with black patent (added 5 mins before end of mash before vorlauf and sparge) and it went black plus extracted some roast character. dont see why you couldnt do that with chocolate, etc. but the hops, which wouldve been sufficient for ipa, shouldve have been increased to deal with the slight roast from late addition black patent

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