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Old 11-16-2012, 03:32 AM   #1
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Default Cannot cold crash 3 days prior bottling.. use gelatin ?

My IPA is sitting in the secondary carboy right now with about 2.5 oz of hops in pellets in a muslim bag floating near the top, and I think it will be ready for bottling in about 2-3 days (according to the taste I got from the sample I took today).

I don't have a fridge to cold crash, but i'd like to get the clearer beer possible. I was thinking of using gelatin.

When to add it and how?


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Old 11-16-2012, 10:18 PM   #2
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Bon soir! I loved Quebec City when I visited. Beautiful city, plus I went to a really nice strip club too haha

I know this is a rather inexact science, but I know that your weather has you right around freezing temperatures. Would it be too much to move your carboy outside for an hour or two prior to bottling?

I haven't used fining agents, so I'll let someone else chime in about that.


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Old 11-16-2012, 10:49 PM   #3
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@TheBeerist I can certainly move it outside on Sunday. Weather forecast is indicating between 2 to -4 celcius. But I dont think I can let the carboy sit outside for the night because it will freeze (-4 celsius).

I think the longest period I could coldcrash outside would be about 8 consecutive hours during the day, when the weather will be around 2 to 0 celcius.

Will it really help? What do you guys think?
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@TheBeerist Strip clubs in Quebec city??? What ? Never heard of it
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0.5 tsp per 5gal of beer for the gelatin.

let it soak in about 1\8 cup of water for 60 min

add hot water to disolve after the 60 min about 1/4 to 1/2 cup

works best to do this right after you transfer to secondary

4-5 days and it will be very clear

rack to bucket and bottle as normal
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0.5 tsp per 5gal of beer for the gelatin.

let it soak in about 1\8 cup of water for 60 min

add hot water to disolve after the 60 min about 1/4 to 1/2 cup

works best to do this right after you transfer to secondary

4-5 days and it will be very clear

rack to bucket and bottle as normal
I only have 2 days left.. Still ok / worth it ?
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ido not know if 2 days is long enough. will waiting 4 days matter that much ? if you want super clear beer i would stir it in let it sit 4 days then rack and bottle, but thats just me and i dont always do things the "right" way
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The gelatin requires time and cold. The beer should be cool or cold when you add the gelatin and remain as cold as possible to expedite the process. 31F is a good temp.

I did some cider this way and it worked well.
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Ok thanks all for the advices and tips.

Since I don't have much time left, today I will drop down the temperature in my basement where the carboy is located. In the evening I will remove the dry hops bag from carboy and put gelatin.

Tomorrow I will cold crash outside all day long and.. bottle in the evening! Voilą.

What do you think?

Will there be gelatin in the bottles interfering with the yeast/carbonation?
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I don't understand the arbitrary time frame. You will need at least a week to bottle carbonate. Then you will need to bottle condition for a time too.

So yes, you might get it to work in a 2 day period, but what is two days vs. 3 days when you have at least a few weeks more to wait?


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