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Old 11-15-2012, 02:06 AM   #1
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is there any way to filter the beer as it comes out of the fermentor and then still be able to bottle condition/carb it? or will filtering it remove too much if not all of the yeast so as not to allow the beer to carb. I want to filter the beer so i can drink it straight from the bottle. i know that kegging then bottling from keg is the better way, but i dont have the keg setup all together yet, but i am tired of telling people to be careful not to drink the whole beer...lol



 
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:53 AM   #2
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As far as I know there isn't a way to filter the beer and bottle carb it. Even if you could once the remaining yeast ate the sugars and finished they would fall out of solution and make sediment in the bottom of the bottle. As far as I know the only way to get sediment free beers would be to force carbonate the bottles.


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Old 11-15-2012, 02:59 AM   #3
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If you filter, you have to repitch new yeast, which will still give you sediment...sorry bro.

 
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:02 AM   #4
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so how do some of the craft beer people do it? they say it is bottle conditioned, but there is little or no sediment at the bottom of the bottle and you can drink it straight from the bottle with no issues? any ideas on that?

 
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:33 AM   #5
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If they truly bottle carbonate, there will always be some yeast at the bottom. I think part if the reason it seams to stay on the bottom as you pour is the beer sits in the bottles for a lot longer than yours will, allowing it to condense a bit. It would not be surprising to learn that companies are jacking around with the term "bottle conditioned" either. Could they be force carbing it, bottling it, then letting it sit for an extended time so they could call it "bottle conditioned"?

 
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:12 AM   #6
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so how do some of the craft beer people do it? they say it is bottle conditioned, but there is little or no sediment at the bottom of the bottle and you can drink it straight from the bottle with no issues? any ideas on that?
Since they add yeast back after filtering(or centrifuging, or both, or fining) the sediment is only yeast. In an unfiltered homebrew the sediment is hop material, protein, and yeast. And the yeast they add back is chosen because it tightly compacts, rather than the yeast used for fermentation which could be any yeast.

 
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:47 PM   #7
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I have some brews I have made that have little sediment in the bottle. For me the secret is to choose a yeast that compacts well and give it time to ferment out and the yeast settle. Try brewing a batch and leave it in the fermenter for 4 to 8 weeks before you bottle it.

 
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:41 PM   #8
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How to eliminate bottle sediment.


Haven't tried these myself, but obviously Craig has.

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Old 01-13-2013, 02:38 PM   #9
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these are pretty amazing. I just wish they cost a little bit less. I searched and for 30 of these it is $72 at that price it might be worth just spending the money to keg and then bottle beer from the kegs if i am going to take them somewhere. i might pick up a box of 15 though just to try them out and do a 6 pack out of each batch i make. not sure yet. this is def the answer though as how to get bottle conditioned without the sediment!

 
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:40 PM   #10
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Some breweries let the wort ferment until it reaches a specified gravity, then close off the fermentor to allow the yeast to carbonate the beer in the fermenter. When the beer is nearly fully carbonated they then bottle, and the remaining carbonation is conditioned in the bottle. Since the majority of the yeast and sediment has fallen into the fermenter, there is almost nothing left to create dregs in the bottle. Some may say that this really isn't bottle conditioning, but it's not a complete falsehood.



 
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