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Old 11-13-2012, 09:37 PM   #1
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I've brewed several all grain beers, and lately I've been curious about what would happen if I used Victory or biscuit malt for a very large portion of my grain bill (50+?). I like the taste of these two malts, and I think it could be fun to make a beer that tastes like biscuits - but I can't find any references to other brewers attempting such a concoction.

What could (would?) go wrong? Supposedly Victory has the diastatic power to convert itself; would I still get a lot of unfermentables? Any thoughts on taste or hops? Has anyone tried it?

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:31 PM   #2
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I've heard that it does not have the diastatic power to convert itself, but it seems that it might be able to be converted if you have a base malt with enough diastatic power. Maybe do 50/50 6-row/victory? I'm curious to see how this turns out.

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:35 PM   #3
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P[EASE IGNORE THE FOLLOWING BRAIN FART..

Victory has a Lintner value of about 50L.

If 1 pound of malt needs 30L just to convert itself, Victory has 20L extra (enough to convert 2/3 of a pound of a malt with 0 Lintner, like chocolate or crystal).

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Old 11-13-2012, 10:46 PM   #4
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There are reasons it's not used as a base malt. One is it is low in diastastic power, and so won't self convert. The second is flavor. A quarter pound is very noticeable in a 5 gallon batch- 1 pound would be extremely "dry" tasting in the finish. More than about a pound or so would be nearly undrinkablee.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:52 PM   #5
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There are reasons it's not used as a base malt. One is it is low in diastastic power, and so won't self convert. The second is flavor. A quarter pound is very noticeable in a 5 gallon batch- 1 pound would be extremely "dry" tasting in the finish. More than about a pound or so would be nearly undrinkablee.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:54 PM   #6
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So Yooper, could I get your opinion on the topic below? I was going to use 20% Victory, but that sounds like you would caution against that?

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/b-c-...6/#post4547487

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:16 PM   #7
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I misread the first post, sorry.. Maybe this will help:

9 pounds pale malt (lowest value 40L) 9lb X 40 = 360

2 pounds victory 2lb X 0 = 0

2oz chocolate .12lb X 0 = 0

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total 360L

360 L is enough to convert about 12 pounds of grain

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Old 11-13-2012, 11:27 PM   #8
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Good example, but I think the OP was looking to do higher than 20% victory. For the beer I am doing I am not too worried about diastatic power. I am more worried about what yooper said about flavor.

 
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So Yooper, could I get your opinion on the topic below? I was going to use 20% Victory, but that sounds like you would caution against that?

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/b-c-...6/#post4547487
Yes, 20% is too much in my opinion. I really like victory malt, and what it brings to the beers. It really is a nice addition, and I use it often. I've never used more than about 6-10% so I can't say how much I could tolerate but I think over 13-15% it would become a very dry flavor and very prominent so I wouldn't go above that.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:35 PM   #10
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blaaaaahhh!!! 50+ % victory malt? have you had a nut brown ale that has a distinct nutty flavor? ok, now amplify that by 8-10 times...
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