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Old 08-20-2007, 03:51 PM   #1
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I use a cfc and I don't have a spigot in my brewpot so I have to use a siphon to get from the pot to the carboy. I have a wort wizard setup right now that works great, but I want to start using better bottles, and they can't hold up to the pressure. One of my carboy appears to have a small crack and that is starting to scare me. So, until I get a brewpot with a spigot, I'm stuck with the siphon method. I think.

Do any of you use a better method in transferring? It would be nice if I could use Better Bottles.

Editing this to mention that I plan on buying a bigger/better pot before a pump.


 
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:02 PM   #2
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You're right, you can't use the wizard with a better bottle (it collapses). The only thing I can figure is that you can use the suction port of the wort wizard to pull a vaccuum directly on the output line of the CFC until you see wort flowing into the wizard. Immediately pull the hose off and put it into your carboy to continue draining.

The big problem here is that you're now on pure gravity. Your kettle will need to be relatively high up for it to flow well. You'd still have this issue with a bulkhead drain on the kettle. Many of us found this problem and answered it with a March 809 pump.
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:06 PM   #3
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I've got a 50L SS MLT with a false bottom and spigot. I dump the wort into it when it's cooled down, and the false bottom acts as a filter for some of the solids. I then put the MLT on a table and position the carboy below the spigot with a strainer funnel in the neck, and proceed to drain it into the funnel thusly:

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Old 08-20-2007, 11:16 PM   #4
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I whirpool after my wort is cooled and let settle. Then I just siphon
into my fermenter with my auto siphon. Simple.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:25 PM   #5
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I use this setup and LOVE it! Aerates and autosiphons...


http://morebeer.com/view_product/15778/

with this

http://morebeer.com/view_product/15779/

 
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:27 AM   #6
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I don't think I was very clear on my first post. I am basically asking if anyone has some better ideas for my situation than what I've come up with, as far as using a cfc and a pot without a spigot. I would like to start using better bottles but with my setup as it is, I can not. The pressure from the wort wizard would crush the better bottle. (At least thats what I've read.)

Another alternative would be attaching an extension tube to the tubing coming out of the cfc, and sucking on it the old fashioned way, but that seems worrisome to me.

Is there anyone in my situation that has figured out a better way?

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Old 08-21-2007, 02:50 AM   #7
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Another alternative would be attaching an extension tube to the tubing coming out of the cfc, and sucking on it the old fashioned way, but that seems worrisome to me.
This is essentially what I do. I have a copper dip tube into my kettle. I have a hose barb on the outlet of the CFC to which I attach a short piece of sanitized hose. I suck on that hose to start the syphon, then pull it off as soon as I see the wort enter the top of the CFC.

I drain into a bucket so I don't bother with another piece of tubing to go into it (just free-fall through a strainer) but there would be plenty of time to attach one if I wanted to before the wort started leaving the chiller.

It's just by gravity but I can drain the 23L from my kettle to my primary in a little under 20 minutes.
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Quote:
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I don't think I was very clear on my first post. I am basically asking if anyone has some better ideas for my situation than what I've come up with, as far as using a cfc and a pot without a spigot. I would like to start using better bottles but with my setup as it is, I can not. The pressure from the wort wizard would crush the better bottle. (At least thats what I've read.)

Another alternative would be attaching an extension tube to the tubing coming out of the cfc, and sucking on it the old fashioned way, but that seems worrisome to me.

Is there anyone in my situation that has figured out a better way?

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I gave you one. Use the suction of the wort wizard to start the siphon, then let gravity do the rest.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:15 AM   #9
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I gave you one. Use the suction of the wort wizard to start the siphon, then let gravity do the rest.
Bobby -- how does this work with the better bottle that he wants to use? He is asking how to use the wort wizard together with the better bottle.

 
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:28 AM   #10
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Bobby -- how does this work with the better bottle that he wants to use? He is asking how to use the wort wizard together with the better bottle.
It's not ideal but I suspect using the wort wizard to suck start the siphon is better than putting your lips on the tube. The downside is that once the siphone is started, he'd have to just let gravity run it. Alternatively, you could transfer into a bottling bucket using wort wizard suction then pour into a better bottle through a strainer afterwards. It's just one extra step but a pain in the ass.
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