Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing > Grainy taste??
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-20-2007, 03:28 PM   #1
mdd134
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Wilson, Oklahoma
Posts: 67
Default Grainy taste??

First let me tell you I am new to all grain brewing. Ok I have only done 2 all grain batches AHS Shiner blonde clone lager, the second was EdWort’s Haus Pale Ale recipe. The Ale has been in the primary for 1 week, and had a low FG: of 1.009 which might be because my OG was a little low. I transferred it to a secondary, and tasted it everything was ok but it has a grainy after taste, so I checked my lager and it has the same after taste. Am I jumping the gun or is this normal for an all grain batch? I have never tasted this in my extract batches.

I used a Rubbermaid 7.5gal converted cooler for my MLT, my temp was never over 155 for the mash, and part of the time it might have been a little low. I have very soft well water and I have not checked the PH of my water or mash.

Thanks for any help,
Michael


mdd134 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 03:31 PM   #2
david_42
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
david_42's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Willamina & Oak Grove, Oregon, USA
Posts: 25,672
Liked 141 Times on 134 Posts

Default

Check them in two weeks, if they aren't mellowing, try cold conditioning for a month.


__________________
Remember one unassailable statistic, as explained by the late, great George Carlin: "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!"

"I would like to die on Mars, just not on impact." Elon Musk
david_42 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 04:55 PM   #3
mward
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 205
Default

Some people might call that 'biscuity'. It goes away after a while, or becomes less pronounced.
mward is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 04:59 PM   #4
BierMuncher
...My Junk is Ugly...
HBT_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BierMuncher's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 12,301
Liked 673 Times on 388 Posts
Likes Given: 247

Default

Certain of my all grains have a "grassy" taste.

It'll go away. Remember that all-grain brewing is the longer, raw material process. A lot of those "in-between-flavors" aren't present in extract brews becuase ou're essentially reconstituting dried extract.
BierMuncher is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 05:33 PM   #5
Ryan_PA
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Horsham, PA, Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,915
Liked 9 Times on 7 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BierMuncher
Certain of my all grains have a "grassy" taste.
I think I have read several times that "grassy" off-flavors are a result of stale ingrediants or dry hopping in the keg.
Ryan_PA is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 05:48 PM   #6
BierMuncher
...My Junk is Ugly...
HBT_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BierMuncher's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 12,301
Liked 673 Times on 388 Posts
Likes Given: 247

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_PA
I think I have read several times that "grassy" off-flavors are a result of stale ingrediants or dry hopping in the keg.
Well this most recent had a heavy wheat malt ratio. It's a repeat recipe and they always turn out fine...just that initial taste out of the secondary.
BierMuncher is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2007, 03:28 AM   #7
Dr Malt
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 287
Liked 13 Times on 13 Posts

Default

A grainy flavor attribute can be caused by the extraction of the tannins from the husk of the malt. This is a function of the mash and lautering pH and temperature. If the pH is not acidic (pH 5.5 or less), the tannins can become solulbe in the wort or if the pH is not acidic and the sparge water is above say 175 F, you get more tannins. This results in an astringent and grainy character in the beer. Perhaps this is something you should check in your process.

Dr Malt
Dr Malt is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2007, 02:15 AM   #8
mdd134
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Wilson, Oklahoma
Posts: 67
Default

I did a simple water test to see if the pH would be my problem.

It showed

Alkalinity as 240ppm
Hardness as 0ppm
pH as 10

Is the pH high, and could this be causing my problem with the grainy tatse?

If so what could I do to correct it?

Should I just start using bottled water?

Thanks
Michael
mdd134 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2007, 02:40 AM   #9
niquejim
Burrowing Owl Brewery
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
niquejim's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Cape Coral Florida
Posts: 2,394
Liked 46 Times on 36 Posts
Likes Given: 87

Default

I may be wrong but I think pale ales usually require harder water, like that at Burton-on-Trent,which is what Burton water salt is for. I'm not sure if that is what is causing your problems but it will make your ales better.
My water is very hard and I must use bottled for everything but my milk stout.

I think your ph is high, so it wouldn't hurt to try bottled with some additves.



niquejim is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Going for a "grainy" taste, any suggestions? chrisedjohn Introductions 7 10-08-2009 06:57 PM
All my batches so far have a "grainy" taste please critique my technique jmooney Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 16 12-23-2008 01:27 PM
Grainy taste!! lynwitte Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 26 07-24-2008 04:13 PM
First all grain taste grainy/husky. What went wrong? clindt All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 17 03-20-2007 09:48 PM
Grainy taste Reddocchi General Techniques 4 01-20-2005 01:22 AM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS