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Old 11-10-2012, 10:23 PM   #1
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Toss them or use them? Amarillo

Thx.
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:30 PM   #2
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if there sealed use them
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:42 PM   #3
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depends what you are using them for, if they smell good, I would certainly use them for late additions. The question mark is their bittering abilities really.

as a reference, I just used some leaf hops from '09 and were not treated well before I got them, meaning they were in a room, in a zip lock for at least a month before I got them ( I had a friend that was a hop farmer that pulled a few pounds from each crop for me and then sent the lump sum) at any rate I was hesitant to use them but I just did recently on a simple pale and man they still have a punch.

 
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:01 AM   #4
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Use them. Find a hop aging calculator (BeerSmith has one), and figure out how much they have deteriorated and adjust for that. The calculator is for bittering, but I would adjust a similar amount for flavor and aroma too; the worst that can happen is you get 'too' much hop flavor and/or aroma.

I just checked BeerSmith. Amarillo will lose 15% AAs in 48 months when vacuum sealed and stored at 0 F. I'd probably just use 20% more than normal to account for the aging.

Pellets tend to keep better than leaf too.

 
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:01 AM   #5
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The old smell test is the way to go. I've thrown out hops that were not that old due to improper handling. Just not worth it imho.

 
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:15 PM   #6
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Here is an update. I stopped brewing 4 years ago, for various reasons, and it just so happened I received a big hop order during the hop crisis of 2008. All hops were vacuumed sealed in two ounces and marked with type, date, and AA%. I put all of these and two dried Nottingham Yeast packets with exp. date of August 2007 in a grocery bag and tied that up and placed in the freezer until bitten by the home brew bug again recently.

17.5 oz Amarillo Pellet Hops at 8% AA
14.0 oz Cascade Pellet Hops at 4.9% AA
2.0 oz Magnum Pellet Hops at 14.9% AA
2.0 oz Columbus Pellet Hops at 6.3% AA
2 Nottingham Dried Yeast Packets exp August 2007

Can someone please use Beersmith to get the AA loss?
Is the Nottingham yeast still good?

Thanks a lot.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:32 PM   #7
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Like others have mentioned, how useful they are will also depend on how they were stored. If you had them in a frost-free freezer they've likely been compromised more than if they were in a deep freezer. That said, I made an IPA not long ago with almost all hops leftover from previous brews. They ranged in age from a couple years to a month and all packages had been opened. I did the "smell test" on all of them, some of which didn't pass. The beer turned out great though.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:38 PM   #8
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Make a barleywine.

 
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