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Old 11-08-2012, 06:04 PM   #11
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I use the plain DME in the boil for hop additions.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:05 PM   #12
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I also dont like alot of sweetness in my beers. I leave crystal malt out of most recipes, add in a bit of sugar (I make mead so i usually use honey)during the last 5 minutes or so of boil so I know it is clean.
DME or LME, both can carmelize in boil; LME may be more likely to, as it sinks to the bottom. Either could be added in late to help prevent it. I add about half DME for the full boil, for the flavor hops additions. Do I need to? I dont know the answer to that.

 
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:12 PM   #13
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Just to state the obvious, but if you want a less sweet beer, cut down on the amount of sweet stuff you put in it. eg if you have been using 1 lb of crystal in an IPA, cut it to 1/2 lb. If that is still too sweet for you, sub out a lb of extract for sugar.

Also, "too sweet" is highly dependent on balance. The same malt bill might taste a whole lot sweeter at 20 IBU than at 80 IBU. If you are making a 60 IBU IPA, you might want to tweak that up to 70 or 80 .

 
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You do need some gravity in there for good hop utilization. & LME doesn't caramelize mearly from going to the bottom. That's scortching. LME just gets more mailard reactions than DME that darken or caramelize during the boil. DME seems to take a lot longer to darken.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:17 PM   #15
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Good to know. I think I was using scorching or burning as carmelizing, leaving out the "why bread turns to toast" part.
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No sweat man. We all learn stuff here. That's one point for being here.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:31 PM   #17
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You do need some gravity in there for good hop utilization.
I don't know if that's true.
I normally do mini-mash recipes so I start with mash liquor. Naturally, this means that I start out with a low, but nonzero boil gravity. This means that I avoid the hop tea boil.

I don't know of any study that has the hop utilization for a ~1.000 boil.

It seems that you would just need energy to convert alpha acids into iso-alpha acids, as they have the same chemical formulas.
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What I meant was gravity higher than water. I use either 1.5lb of plain DME in a 2.5-3 gallon boil,or the mashed wort in a PM. I then add the lil jug of gold LME at flame out.
The hop tea thing worked ok in the begining. I used a couple ounces of hops in the partial boil before mixing in the Cooper's can.
So I meant basically a light wort to get decent extraction/utilization from the hops. The hop qualities are better with the light wort vs water.
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