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Old 11-13-2012, 08:13 PM   #91
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I brewed a similar beer Saturday. My bill was about the same as yours, but I also got a bucket (you can never have too many) and a good sized bottle of sanitizer.

I've thought about buying bulk grain, and grinding it myself, but with the cost of a grinder, the time in grinding it and the cost of safely storing it at home (away from pests, etc.) I find it simpler to simply go to the LHBS and let them do it. They pay all those costs and simply pass them on to me for my share in the prices. I hand the clerk my list and then look at all the toys until she brings me my grains, ground and ready to brew. I wouldn't save enough to make it worth the trouble.
Except the time, and fuel burned, going to the LHBS to get the grain.

Storing grain is easy, and pretty cheap (depending on how you do it). You can use 5 gallon buckets (Home Depot or Lowes are commonly used). I mill at about 5-6# per minute. So time to mill is minimal. I also have several other malts on hand, so I can make whatever I want AND have added flexibility. If I decide, on brew day, to change up the grist, it's super easy (provided I'm not looking to remove grain already milled).

Space requirements for grain is not bad either. Usually a full sack can be split between two 5 gallon buckets (50 pound sack). You can even leave unopened sacks as is.

I can understand if you don't have the room to store them. I had a rough time trying to keep sacks of grain in my 1 bedroom apartment. Ended up storing my base malt at my brew-buddy's place. At least until I moved into a house, with a basement, and plenty of room.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:21 PM   #92
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I know all this, but the LHBS opened a shop less than three miles from my house and I drive by it twice every day. Actually, it's no less convenient than my garage. As for storing grain, I see the bulk grain more as an invitation for rats and mice than a convenience. But, to each his own. Being in Texas, and so close to the LHBS, I'm more concerned with keeping down temperatures on my fermenter.

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:33 PM   #93
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The closest LHBS is about a 10 minute drive for me. But their malt costs are much higher than what I pay via group buys. I've not had any issue with storing my grain after over a year, so I don't think it's an issue. Then again, I don't have the rodents like you do down in Texas.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:57 AM   #94
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Get GammaSeal lids for your buckets. Rodent/bug/oxygen problem solved.

 
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:25 AM   #95
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Get GammaSeal lids for your buckets. Rodent/bug/oxygen problem solved.
Yeah, but those lids are NOT cheap. Can be a bit difficult to install, depending on the bucket (and temperatures) too. Installed the last pair I had (bought a 4 pack many months back) this past week. Not as easy as on the previous Lowe's buckets. Go figure.

I do like the positive, easy, sealing though. I have two vittles vaults that hold over a sack each. Plus the blue 14 gallon barrels I got during a group grain buy. Just needed to get some o-rings for those lids (from McMaster-Carr) and they are air tight. No issues storing grain in any of those. I've even used standard Lowe's buckets to keep grain in. Just make sure you seal it tight.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:57 AM   #96
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I know this will sound stupid since grain has been stored at ambient temperatures in various climates for millennia. What about temperature of storing bulk grain? My garage has an insulated door, but ambient room temperatures in the summer can reach well over a hundred, especially in the afternoon when the sun hits the door directly.

 
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:09 PM   #97
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I know this will sound stupid since grain has been stored at ambient temperatures in various climates for millennia. What about temperature of storing bulk grain? My garage has an insulated door, but ambient room temperatures in the summer can reach well over a hundred, especially in the afternoon when the sun hits the door directly.
I store mine in the basement where the temperature swings are minimal. While I wouldn't store it where the temperatures reach 100F+ stable temperatures could be more important.
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:25 PM   #98
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I could swing that.
10 lbs 2-row
.7 x 10 = $7.00
.5 lb c60
.75 x 1 = $.75
.5 ounce Apollo (bittering)
.35 x 1 = .35
2 oz cascade (aroma and flavor)
2 x .62 = 1.25
Washed yeast or yeast from the brewery = free

$9.35
80% efficiency gives me 1.055
$35 a sack for 2-row
$10 a lb for hops through Niko

18 a beer, it can be done. Shoot, I could even splurge on hops and make it an IPA and keep it under 11 bucks.
Hello, Where are you buying from, I would love to know.

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Old 11-14-2012, 03:01 PM   #99
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Hello, Where are you buying from, I would love to know.

Cheers
I buy my grain from Whole Foods, $35 a sack for US 2-Row and $1.50 a pound for all other grains not bulk. I get a lot of my hops from Niko Brew who frequently runs deals for $10 a pound hops on certain varieties. Sign up for his newsletter to get the deals. I wash yeast, or head down to the local brewpub for some free WLP002.

 
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:33 PM   #100
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Whole Foods sells 2-row? Wow. Didn't even think about that. I may have to check them out.

 
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