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Old 11-06-2012, 12:47 AM   #11
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No, I had everything connected and the power on.

 
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:12 AM   #12
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You need to power off and disconnect wires from the element to isolate it. You do not want to use an ohm meter on a live circuit. Thats probably why you got that negative reading. Hope you didn't cook your meter.

 
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:13 AM   #13
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If you tried to read resistance (Ohms) on a powered circuit, you may have fried your meter. Try setting your meter to ohms and short to two meter leads together and see if you get 0 ohms (or very close to it). If so, set it to AC voltage and try measuring a wall outlet for 120 VAC. If that works, maybe it's ok after all. Try a low DC Volts scale with a dry cell and see if it still reads correctly.

If all of that checks out, go back and check your element resistance with nothing connected for 10 ohms or so. If good, connect your leads and power it up with water covering the element and check for 240 VAC at the element. If good, it should be heating. If you don't have 240 VAC at your element but you DO have 120 VAC from either side to ground (or neutral), then you have a wiring or other problem.....

 
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:24 AM   #14
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Multi meter still works fine. This time I disconnected everything and I got 10.6 ohms and 0 when grounded.

 
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:36 AM   #15
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Element is fine then.

The power you are measuring at the element is probably leakage from the ssr. I would verify dc control voltage at the ssr next. Some have a little led to show power. You will of course need everything powered up for this. If you have control power and no power to element you may have a bad ssr...

 
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:36 AM   #16
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Do you mean you read 0 ohms from one side (or both) of the element to ground? If that's the case, there's an internal problem with the element and I would think you would be tripping a GFCI or a breaker when it's powered up.

 
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:53 AM   #17
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My ssr does have a red led lit up when powered. I wasn't sure when connecting the power wire to the ssr if it mattered which was input and which was output. Could that be the issue?

 
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:23 AM   #18
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I'm not sure that it matters. Do you have the manual? L1 is where I have my power in connected and T1 is connected to the element.

Do you have a diagram or maybe a picture would help...

 
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:31 PM   #19
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Here is a pic of the SSR. It came from kegkits and didn't include a manual. I have the power going in to 1 and 2 goes to the element.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:34 PM   #20
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I found a diagram of this relay with the load connected to terminal 1. I am not sure if this makes a difference but it couldn't hurt to try it.

 
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