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Old 08-16-2007, 03:02 PM   #1
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I've seen on other posts that it's not good to squeeze grain bags into our wort because it releases tannins and other bad things. And yet I've also read recipes that tell us to rinse our specialty grains with hotter water (like sparging). What gives? Will this rinsing process just release tannins the same way it would if I squeezed the bag?

 
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:12 PM   #2
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No, rinsing will not release tannins the same way as squeezing the bag. When you rinse you are just pouring the hot water over the grains to try and get the last little bit of goodness from them.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:04 PM   #3
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When I did my last brew I was unaware that you are not supposed to squeeze the grain bag, and so I did trying to get all I could out of it. What should I expect taste wise?
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When I did my last brew I was unaware that you are not supposed to squeeze the grain bag, and so I did trying to get all I could out of it. What should I expect taste wise?
It will probably be fine. You might get a slight astringent taste, but I wouldn't worry about it. In general all of us geeks tend to over-emphasize things like tannin extraction.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:46 PM   #5
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Question: If it were possible, would it be a good thin to mash with cracked grains that has no husks at all?

 
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:06 PM   #6
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Mash no.. you will never be able to get the liquid through without the grain just pouring into your boil. That is a recipe for a stuck sparge. If you wanted to I am sure that you could, but that would be one helluva PITA.

 
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:19 PM   #7
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Mash no.. you will never be able to get the liquid through without the grain just pouring into your boil. That is a recipe for a stuck sparge. If you wanted to I am sure that you could, but that would be one helluva PITA.
Ok guys, I will admit that my other hobby (being an ubergeek) is bleeding through here and most of this is just mental masturbation. That said:

If it ever had a purpose, the husk seperator would actually not be that difficult to do. Simply dropping the grain through an updraft with sufficient lift for the husk, but insufficient lift for the grains. The husks would fly out the top, the grains would fall out the bottom.

As for sparging: What if you sparged huskless grain in a LT that could not allow a stuck sparge? I'm thinking a tub like a washing machine on spin cycle. The hot sparge water sprays forth in a mist from nozzles where the spindle should be and sprays at a rate perfect for the sparge. Everything that runs out is wort, and NO liquid remains in the grains. Thoughts?

 
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:22 PM   #8
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Ok guys, I will admit that my other hobby (being an ubergeek) is bleeding through here and most of this is just mental masturbation. That said:

If it ever had a purpose, the husk seperator would actually not be that difficult to do. Simply dropping the grain through an updraft with sufficient lift for the husk, but insufficient lift for the grains. The husks would fly out the top, the grains would fall out the bottom.

As for sparging: What if you sparged huskless grain in a LT that could not allow a stuck sparge? I'm thinking a tub like a washing machine on spin cycle. The hot sparge water sprays forth in a mist from nozzles where the spindle should be and sprays at a rate perfect for the sparge. Everything that runs out is wort, and NO liquid remains in the grains. Thoughts?
It sounds a lot like a commercial breadmaker actually.

 
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:20 PM   #9
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there are a lot of views on this. i have always been a bag squeezer and never had any ill effects from it. I say do what you like and taste the results for yourself.
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:10 PM   #10
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i have always been a bag squeezer


sorry I couldn't resist...lol

 
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