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Old 10-29-2012, 08:42 PM   #1
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These are totally unavailable in reasonable bulk in UK, and USA shops are keeping theirs for USA brewers. It ain't fair!!!


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Old 10-29-2012, 09:00 PM   #2
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Well, look at it this way. At least you don't have to pay a ridiculous price for hops. I saw them at the store the other week for a mere $5.99 an ounce.


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Old 10-30-2012, 11:30 AM   #3
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Ain't cheap, but these guys have it.

http://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/nel...st-p-1333.html

I think they're in Ireland.

Hop and Grape seem to be sold out. Harvest is in January or February, though, I think, so we might see the new crop show up towards early spring.
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This made me write a recipe which calls for Nelson Sauvin.

For a 19 liter recipe

4,5 kg of Pale Ale
450 grams of Caramunich III
230 grams of Biscuit Malt

20 grams of Nelson Sauvin (11,50%) at 45 minutes
20 grams of Nelson Sauvin (11,50%) at 20 minutes
40 grams of Pacifica (5,6%)

American Ale II

Now I just gotta get around to brewing it...
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I've got 8 oz sitting vacuum sealed in my freezer. I hate them alone but lightly mixed with other more citrusy hops like Amarillo and Galaxy they are ok. I've tried to give them away locally but no one wants them. No lie...
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This made me write a recipe which calls for Nelson Sauvin.

For a 19 liter recipe

4,5 kg of Pale Ale
450 grams of Caramunich III
230 grams of Biscuit Malt

20 grams of Nelson Sauvin (11,50%) at 45 minutes
20 grams of Nelson Sauvin (11,50%) at 20 minutes
40 grams of Pacifica (5,6%)

American Ale II

Now I just gotta get around to brewing it...
personally this recipe is a bit of a waste of NS. you won't get any flavor or aroma from the 45 min addition, and just a little from the 20 minute. you don't specify when you're adding the pacifica, but assuming that it's at 0 minutes then this batch will mostly taste and smell of those.

you want to add you hops in the last 15 minutes to get flavor and aroma out of them. if you need to keep your current quantities (because that's what you've already bought), i'd consider adding 15g of NS at 60 mins for bittering, and then the rest in the last 10 mins (say 12.5g at 10 mins and 12.5g at 1 min or flamout). better yet, get some other less expensive hops for bittering at 60 mins and save all the NS for the last 15 mins of the boil (ex: 10g at 15, 10, 5 and 0 mins each).
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personally this recipe is a bit of a waste of NS. you won't get any flavor or aroma from the 45 min addition, and just a little from the 20 minute. you don't specify when you're adding the pacifica, but assuming that it's at 0 minutes then this batch will mostly taste and smell of those.

you want to add you hops in the last 15 minutes to get flavor and aroma out of them. if you need to keep your current quantities (because that's what you've already bought), i'd consider adding 15g of NS at 60 mins for bittering, and then the rest in the last 10 mins (say 12.5g at 10 mins and 12.5g at 1 min or flamout). better yet, get some other less expensive hops for bittering at 60 mins and save all the NS for the last 15 mins of the boil (ex: 10g at 15, 10, 5 and 0 mins each).
BS. If you just do this beer with nelson at 45, you will be able to tell. It's not all bitterness. I'm not sure where that started but if you have ever brewed a beer with just a 60 min addition that isn't overpowerly malt based you can taste the hop that was used. I've done this many times and it is indeed contributing flavors but not as powerful as say a 10 minute addition. Commercial brewers use 45 and 30 minute additions all the time, suppose they just didn't want to add less hops at 60 or 90 and save a few bucks?
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Fair, smair.......So what? To the victors go the spoils. We kicked your redcoated arses in 1776, we can do whatever the hell we want to you guys.

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