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Old 11-14-2012, 11:09 PM   #31
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Looks like a great start will keep following your progress and yes PJ is the man on the wiring he helped me on mine to include a few phone calls! Thanks PJ


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Old 11-18-2012, 01:33 PM   #32
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Another delivery yesterday. PIDs, RTD probes, timer and two 40A SSRs.


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Old 11-18-2012, 02:21 PM   #33
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Subbed! Looking good so far. I can't wait to see what panel design you go with. I built the Kal panel and love it, every time I have friends over all they can say is "Wow". You will enjoy the panel build the day if fires up and everything works (lol). Christmas day is coming fast, hope to hear your brewing on schedule. Castermmt
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:56 PM   #34
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Default A cobbling together of wiring diagrams

Here's another "turn of the crank" on what I'm looking to build for the control panel. At this point, I'm planning to source parts for this directly, rather than go with the ebrewsupply.com kit.

First .jpg is a P-J diagram for a 50A setup with two 5500W elements, using 3 PIDs (monitor only for MLT) - this is the baseline for what I'm trying to build

Second .jpg is another P-J diagram for a 50A setup with two 5500W elements (I drew a box around the upper right portion, as this is the only part that I want to incorporate) - I need a 3-way switch to send heat either to the HLT or the BK, and not both like the first diagram would allow (assuming I'm reading it correctly)

Third .jpg is the interlock wiring from Kal's setup - I like the idea of being unable to "start the car when the transmission is in gear"

The only other thing I'm planning to do with my build is to add a dedicated timer (in addition to the three PIDs).

Would love thoughts from folks on the direction I'm headed here...
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:53 PM   #35
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Default More kettle work

Installed the three sight glasses today, and punched two additional holes in MLT for ball valves. RTD probe leaked at first, so pulled, retaped, reinstalled and ran another leak test. Everything looks good now.

Also, got female disconnects from morebeer.com today, so got to test out a hose to drain MLT.

Still left to do on the mechanical side:

1) eye bolts for sight glasses
2) calibrate sight glasses
3) order false bottom (does anyone know if Blichmann has a false bottom that is 19 5/8"?) - will probably order from midwest

After that, it'll be heads down on control panel build... feeling good about brewing on Christmas day. Think I'm going to brew a SN Celebration Ale Clone as the first batch.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:10 PM   #36
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Happy Thanksgiving everyone, I would not put my RTD in a site glass. You may not get a good reading because the site glass is pretty static as it relates to temperature and flow. If it was seeing flow like we use in the discharge lines of the HLT and Mash tun I'd be good with it, but like I said, site glass is not the best place to install the RTD. My two cents, Castermmt
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Hadn't thought about that, castermmt. The end of the RTD probe is practically in the kettle (2.5" probe). I'll need to do some testing on this.

Happy T-day!

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Old 11-23-2012, 02:05 PM   #38
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Your build is nearly identical to mine, with 3 PIDs, 50A service, etc. If you have two 5500W elements and 50A you could run both at the same time. I put a 4500W in the BK and a 5500W in the HLT just to give me a little more cushin when I run both at the same time. Would save you from needing the 3-way switch and you could go with the first diagram. Which - is that the one PJ did for me?

I'm also going with the Safe Start - maybe I'm just paranoid like that...
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Hey BadNews - The only reason I want the 3-way switch is that I'm not comfortable with a panel that would allow a 92% draw on the 50A service. My process will not include back to back batches, but since I'm not going to swap out the 5500W elements already installed in my kettles, I feel compelled to design under the 80% load.

You're right about our systems being nearly identical... looks like you're making great progress on your panel... keep posting, I've learned a lot from watching your build thread.

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Fair enough on the 3-way switch. If you don't plan to do back-to-back though, at most you'd have both elements on very briefly until you realized your error, so that may limit your concern. But if you want the 3-way switch, make it happen!

I plan to do some wiring this weekend, we'll see if SWMBO has other plans for me though.
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