How to carbonate beer that doesn't have yeast - Home Brew Forums
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Bottling/Kegging > How to carbonate beer that doesn't have yeast
Cool Brewing Corny 5G & Mini Giveaway

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-25-2012, 05:25 AM   #1
Genelec
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: West Vancouver, British Columbia
Posts: 20
Likes Given: 1


Hello,

I'm brewing a maltzbeer which is a german beer for kids, it's non alcoholic and sweet. You brew it the same way as a normal beer only after a day of it fermenting you kill the yeast. My problem is, that since you killed the yeast adding sugar to it wouldn't help it carbonate. You could force carbonate it but I dont have the right equipment to do that. Is there a way to carbonate it without having to buy expensive equipment?

Thanks



 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2012, 12:49 PM   #2

That's a conundrum. If you add yeast at bottling, it will go after all the fermentable sugars left in the maltzbeer and you'll have bottle bombs.

The only process that comes to mind is adding yeast and priming sugar at bottling and then pasteurizing the bottles (killing the yeast) after a few days, when the bottles are carbed but before you get bottle bombs.



 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2012, 04:14 PM   #3
Slipgate
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Damascus, MD
Posts: 591
Liked 16 Times on 16 Posts
Likes Given: 8


Looks to me like it is time for you to upgrade to a kegerator.

Oh - and "do it for the children!"

misterc Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2012, 10:44 PM   #4
daksin
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
 
daksin's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 4,602
Liked 348 Times on 302 Posts
Likes Given: 364


Yea, force carbing is going to be the only way to do it. You can get a "carbonator cap" that will allow you to force carb individual bottles so you don't have to buy a keg, but you still need all the other kegging hardware.
__________________
I can't be arsed to keep up this list of what's in the fermenters, but hey, check out the cool brewery I own!

twitter.com/2kidsbrewing .. facebook.com/2kidsbrewing .. 2kidsbrewing.com

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2012, 07:16 PM   #5
njs170
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Newark, DE
Posts: 388
Liked 13 Times on 12 Posts
Likes Given: 4


Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipgate View Post
Oh - and "do it for the children!"
I second that!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2012, 07:25 PM   #6
JuanMoore
Outlaw Illegal Potluck Organizer
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
 
JuanMoore's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Old Pueblo
Posts: 21,433
Liked 3625 Times on 3458 Posts
Likes Given: 35


How are you planning on killing the yeast?

You could ferment it in 2L soda bottles with the caps on, and then stick them in the fridge to stop the yeast. That's how a lot of homemade sodas are carbonated. There's probably some good info in the soda making forum.
__________________
I'm trying to find some porn filmed by a dog wearing a GoPro. - SharonaZamboni

Hunter, when you get bored, will you put a taco in my elephant's hands for me? - Hat

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2012, 09:35 PM   #7
beaksnbeer
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
beaksnbeer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: New Port Richey, Florida
Posts: 2,839
Liked 502 Times on 332 Posts
Likes Given: 67


You can add dry ice read how dry ice, 2cups sugar and X amount of water, once dry ice is dissolved =carbonated
__________________
Quote:
Home of the 12 Tap keezer

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 02:35 PM   #8
TopherM
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Posts: 3,967
Liked 446 Times on 352 Posts
Likes Given: 27


Quote:
You brew it the same way as a normal beer only after a day of it fermenting you kill the yeast.
If you ferment it for a day it is NOT non-alcoholic. There's alcohol in there. Maybe <2%, but there's alcohol!

I think the best way to carbonate such an animal would be to actually bottle the wort without the one-day fermentation, let them naturally carb for a short period of time using the wort's sugar, being careful to get it just right, then either pastuerize the bottles, add campden tabs to kill the yeast, or just refridgerate the whole batch. That's how traditional soda makers naturally carb bottled homebrew soda without alcohol. Maybe check out the soda forum and ask some questions over there?
__________________
Primary #1 - Midnight Ryeder (Midnight Wheat and Rye)
Primary #2 - Florida Weiss
Primary #3 - Kane-DOH APA (Honey Citra APA)
Secondary #1 - Downtown Flanders Brown (brewed August 2012)
Keg #1 - Raspberry Florida Weiss
Keg #2 - Cinnamon Raisin Cider
Keg #3 - NONE!
Bottled - NONE!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 02:41 PM   #9
Halbrust
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Upland, CA
Posts: 710
Liked 67 Times on 55 Posts
Likes Given: 100


Quote:
Originally Posted by JuanMoore View Post
You could ferment it in 2L soda bottles with the caps on, and then stick them in the fridge to stop the yeast. That's how a lot of homemade sodas are carbonated. There's probably some good info in the soda making forum.
I think this is the answer.
I bottle carb soda that has a lot of fermentable sugar in it. The pressure+refridgeration stops it from becoming alcoholic. I assume it would work the same way if you allowed it to partially ferment first.


But...
I thoughtchildren's beer was fully fermented beer, but with a very very low starting gravity?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yooper View Post
...it's fine if it's fermenting.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 10:38 PM   #10
Genelec
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: West Vancouver, British Columbia
Posts: 20
Likes Given: 1


Thanks a lot for all your help, I'll try this



 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Can you re-carbonate beer that didn't carbonate well in bottles? olharris Bottling/Kegging 22 07-26-2014 08:29 AM
Is there such a way as to carbonate bottles without yeast in beer? brewd00d Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 18 11-18-2010 03:04 AM
Can you carbonate your beer with yeast in a keg? impatient Bottling/Kegging 3 01-16-2010 03:17 PM
can you carbonate a keg with yeast? FSBrewer Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 11 09-09-2008 07:07 AM
enough yeast to carbonate? tranceamerica All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 5 03-31-2008 07:26 PM


Forum Jump