Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Techniques > storing beer in keg
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-23-2012, 11:22 PM   #1
cgrivois
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: willow spring, nc
Posts: 209
Liked 15 Times on 12 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default storing beer in keg

Ive read the threads regarding storing beer in a keg, but what Im concerned about is that after Ive purged the air out and then hit it with 30psi of nitrogen, the next day there doesnt seem to be much preasure in the keg. There are no leaks, is it just the cold beer obsorbing the nitrogen, if so, do I need to keep hitting it with nitrogen so that it doesnt go bad.


cgrivois is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 12:07 AM   #2
helibrewer
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
helibrewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 3,685
Liked 294 Times on 249 Posts
Likes Given: 77

Default

Beer will absorb nitrogen and nitrogen is lighter than air so it's difficult to purge air with it. If you are putting 30 psi in there and not getting any through the vent the next day, there's a leak. Even if the beer absorbed it, when opening the vent it would come out of solution because of the pressure drop (opening to the atmosphere).


__________________
Something is always fermenting....
"It's Bahl Hornin'"

Primary:
Brite Tank/Lagering:
Kegged: Sour Saison, Pale Ale, Aggie Ale, Firestone DBA, De Koninck Blonde
Bottled: Belgian Quad (Grand Reserve), Derangement (Belgian Dark Strong)
On Deck: Pliny the Younger
helibrewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 12:17 AM   #3
cgrivois
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: willow spring, nc
Posts: 209
Liked 15 Times on 12 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

When I pull the relief valve you can here a verry small amount of gas excaping, verry small amount. Pretty sure there is no leak as I check everything with snoop after I hit with 30psi.
cgrivois is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 02:15 AM   #4
tknice
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
tknice's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 363
Liked 10 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 8

Default

I don't know about nitrogen, but with CO2, you need to get to the point of equilibrium, which is to say the beer cannot absorb any more C02 for the PSI you have it set to. It's at this point that the keg will hold pressure indefinately.

The only question left is how many volumes you want and what PSI do you set (warm or cold) to achieve this.

I would assume nitrogen works the same way (but I admit I don't know the details).
tknice is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 12:36 PM   #5
cgrivois
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: willow spring, nc
Posts: 209
Liked 15 Times on 12 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Im a dumb a** I said nitrogen, but meant CO2. I just want to store the beer in my keg untill Im ready for it, its in my keezer now, but will have to move out to make room for my christmas beer.
cgrivois is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 01:48 PM   #6
carltjones
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 152
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Leave the keg on the regular gas line for 48 hours or top it off several times (at 40 psi). Works when I have brewed extra
carltjones is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 04:15 PM   #7
kinison_fan
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Downingtown, PA
Posts: 542
Liked 53 Times on 50 Posts
Likes Given: 15

Default

You could keg it with 1/3 cup sugar, purge with co2, then let it naturally carb up at room temp.
__________________
-Those that know donít close the door on those that donít know (The Gourds, "Education Song")...
-The brewer's yeast ferments, and forgives, all that you did...(The Gourds, "Right in the Head")...
kinison_fan is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 07:52 PM   #8
tomhen
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 28
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Put 30 psi on your keg that is at about 35 degrees. Tilt it up at an angle and give it 100 shakes back and forth, not too fay to kill your back and fast like to pumps per second. Wait an hour and repeat this process 7 times. Your beer should be nice and carbonated by then.
tomhen is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 09:45 PM   #9
cgrivois
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: willow spring, nc
Posts: 209
Liked 15 Times on 12 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

not trying to carb the keg per say, just want to store it while I drink off of the other kegs. Its in the cooler now, but will have to come out in a couple of weeks.
cgrivois is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2012, 01:04 PM   #10
kinison_fan
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Downingtown, PA
Posts: 542
Liked 53 Times on 50 Posts
Likes Given: 15

Default

I think you want to try keg conditioning at room temp. When the beer goes into the keg, add 1/3 cup of sugar. Put the lid on, add a shot of co2, then vent it/ purge and repeat. Then one last addition of co2.
You are purging the oxygen by doing this, not actually carbing it up. The yeast and added sugar will carb it.
Then set it aside, at room temp, until ready to chill and drink.
You are basically bottle conditioning a 5 gallon bottle. When you hook up the co2, its set to serving pressure. The first couple pours will be cloudy from trub, but the rest is all good.


__________________
-Those that know donít close the door on those that donít know (The Gourds, "Education Song")...
-The brewer's yeast ferments, and forgives, all that you did...(The Gourds, "Right in the Head")...
kinison_fan is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Storing beer in a keg Chizult Bottling/Kegging 17 05-08-2011 07:38 PM
Storing beer Gfunk Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 4 02-23-2011 06:10 PM
Storing beer! Naked_Eskimo General Beer Discussion 28 07-28-2010 01:24 AM
storing beer Bfelt Bottling/Kegging 5 07-02-2010 06:53 PM
storing pre-tap beer? Brewer#19 General Techniques 5 11-24-2008 05:36 PM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS