Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > Starter: Decant Wort or Not?
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-18-2012, 04:38 AM   #1
ultravista
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 2,147
Liked 39 Times on 32 Posts
Likes Given: 31

Default Starter: Decant Wort or Not?

When I make a starter, typically 1.5L to 1.8L, I've been adding the wort and yeast into the fermenter.

What's everyone else doing? Decanting the wort off and just pitching the yeast slurry?

Any advantages or disadvantages either way?


ultravista is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 04:43 AM   #2
helibrewer
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
helibrewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 3,685
Liked 294 Times on 249 Posts
Likes Given: 77

Default

I chill 24 hours then decant. I don't need the additional liquid and the starter "beer" generally isn't that good. On the other side, if you pitch the entire thing while the starter is at high krausen your fermentation should start fairly quickly...the yeast are at their peak and eager for more food.


__________________
Something is always fermenting....
"It's Bahl Hornin'"

Primary:
Brite Tank/Lagering:
Kegged: Sour Saison, Pale Ale, Aggie Ale, Firestone DBA, De Koninck Blonde
Bottled: Belgian Quad (Grand Reserve), Derangement (Belgian Dark Strong)
On Deck: Pliny the Younger
helibrewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 11:44 AM   #3
J187
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: , MA
Posts: 836
Liked 95 Times on 73 Posts
Likes Given: 21

Default

Depends also on your beer... I'd refrain from pitching the whole thing into a light beer. For most ales, its probably just a matter of preference. I like decanting unless I run out of time.
J187 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 12:49 PM   #4
billl
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 2,112
Liked 323 Times on 270 Posts
Likes Given: 7

Default

For anything in the 1L range, I just toss it all in. If it is a really big beer/starter, I'll decant.
billl is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 01:34 PM   #5
SoonerDoc
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 404
Liked 17 Times on 11 Posts
Likes Given: 61

Default

I decant. I didn't do anything for the starter to make it taste like beer, it's just made it as nutrient for the yeast. I doubt it matters a lot but, to me, it makes sense to decant.
SoonerDoc is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 01:40 PM   #6
Francus
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Francus's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 106
Liked 10 Times on 6 Posts
Likes Given: 4

Default

I prefer to decant so I try and make the starter enough ahead of time so that it settles out. (I use a stir plate) However, if I don't for some reason I'll pour the whole thing in. If it is a light beer or lager I'll decant as much as seems practical and dump in the rest.
Francus is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 01:43 PM   #7
unionrdr
struggling author
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
unionrdr's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sheffield, Ohio
Posts: 35,133
Liked 3025 Times on 2607 Posts
Likes Given: 2142

Default

I basically agree. Just leave enough liquid in the container to swirl the yeast up into suspension in order to pour it all out.
__________________
My sci-fi & home brewing books on amazon-kindle now! New additions coming!
NEW, REVISED EDITION of book one of Time Lords 2034 series now on Amazon Kindle! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NTA0L6G
My homebrewing book "Tippy Tippy Tappy" on Kindle! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PBAP6JO
unionrdr is online now
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 01:44 PM   #8
Obliviousbrew
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Benidorm, Alicante/Spain
Posts: 1,571
Liked 229 Times on 160 Posts
Likes Given: 168

Default

When is a regular brew and not a very big starter I pitch at high krausen the whole thing, if itīs a really big starter for a big beer I prefer crashing cold and decanting.
Obliviousbrew is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 01:45 PM   #9
bobbrews
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sierra, Nevada
Posts: 4,020
Liked 426 Times on 343 Posts
Likes Given: 72

Default

I really don't see how pitching the entire starter would ever be beneficial to the flavor of the end beer...whether we're talking about 300 ml or 3000 ml. For common sense reasons, I always cold crash starters for 24 hours prior to brewing. On brew day, after my mash, I'll gently set the starter on the counter and let it slowly rise to room temperature. After the boil, when the wort is cooled, I gently decant 90% of the starter wort, stir the yeast cake with the remaining 10%, then pitch into the oxygenated main wort.
bobbrews is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 01:56 PM   #10
ultravista
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 2,147
Liked 39 Times on 32 Posts
Likes Given: 31

Default

That's it, I'm decanting from now on. For nearly every batch since making starters, I have pitched the entire thing. Using your feedback, and thinking back on the process, it makes sense to decant. My starters are hop-free and just light or dark DME, that's it. No temperature control and done right in the kitchen, often with the blinds open (no direct sunlight though).

For my last brew, an Arrogant Bastart clone, I used WLP007. No need to crash cool this yeast, it drops and and gelatanizes quickly.

Thank you all for the advice.


ultravista is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
To decant or not to decant a starter Sarrsipius Fermentation & Yeast 4 10-09-2012 12:03 PM
Yeast starter.. To decant, or not to decant? superfknmario Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 14 10-01-2012 03:57 AM
second stage of yeast starter, decant first or just add more wort? jigidyjim Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 4 08-01-2010 11:41 PM
Do you decant your starter before you add more wort to it? (for hi-gravity beer) rockout Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 13 06-03-2010 12:21 AM
Starter: To Decant or not to Decant... Pelikan General Techniques 6 12-22-2008 02:35 PM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS