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Old 10-17-2012, 07:07 PM   #101
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This is one of those topics where everyone is an expert but no one knows sh!t. Even my doctor tries to tell me what to eat and not to eat and he is a huge fat ass... but he is a doctor right? So he must know right? lol. I told him I was going to fix my cholesterol without statins by not eating wheat, corn, or refined sugars and by eating crap tons of animal fat and vegetables. He said I was crazy.

Now after successfully doing just that... our relationship now pretty much consists of him authorizing my yearly blood test so I can see how my health indicators are and him cutting the occasional scary mole out (which he is in fact good at) because I once had a malignant melanoma.

Of course, now that I am healthy, I can get away with the occasional beer here, ice cream there bit.
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:12 PM   #102
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Also don't just count a beer as 200 calories. Some have over 400. My dogfish 90 I just had was 300 calories. That was for 12 ounces not a pint. This whole thread and life just boils down to, most people are just lazy and uninformed when it comes to exercise and diet. It isn't hard. Almost everything works. You just have to stick to an effort level above sloth.

 
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:20 PM   #103
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You just have to stick to an effort level above sloth.
Hey man... be nice to sloths. I love the furry little bastards. And they actually try very hard. They just have very low metabolic rates (probably due to enzyme activity at low body temperatures).
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:07 PM   #104
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Personal experience story. I quit drinking Mt Dew, started counting calories, and make better choices on food. I have cut back on red meat for chicken. Fried foods are practically gone from my plate. The sharp decrease was a sinus infection. The two sharp increases were beer festivals where I over ate and drank.
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:54 PM   #105
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Personal experience story. I quit drinking Mt Dew, started counting calories, and make better choices on food. I have cut back on red meat for chicken. Fried foods are practically gone from my plate. The sharp decrease was a sinus infection. The two sharp increases were beer festivals where I over ate and drank.
Quit drinking mt dew?? Sorry, thats a fate worse then death if you ask me, I am quite addicted to the dew... But i limit myself to 1 softdrink a day. :-)

 
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:58 PM   #106
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It isn't hard. Almost everything works. You just have to stick to an effort level above sloth.
Maybe it isn't hard for you, but the fact is almost nothing works because each person's biology and genetics are different. I do believe that there is a diet out there for everyone, but some people (such as myself) have yet to find that diet.

The thing I really don't get is, on paper I am in pretty good shape. I have good cholesterol levels, good blood pressure and a resting heart rate of approximately 50 bpm. But I'm about 50 lbs overweight if you follow traditional guidance. I believe that if your ticker is in good shape and you take care of your body by eating a nutritionally sound diet, weight shouldn't even be relevant. Some people just weren't built with the genetics for a skinny body.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:43 AM   #107
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The thing I really don't get is, on paper I am in pretty good shape. I have good cholesterol levels, good blood pressure and a resting heart rate of approximately 50 bpm. But I'm about 50 lbs overweight if you follow traditional guidance. I believe that if your ticker is in good shape and you take care of your body by eating a nutritionally sound diet, weight shouldn't even be relevant. Some people just weren't built with the genetics for a skinny body.
Awesome progress, but don't give much credit to the BMI index number shown there. BMI only takes into account height and weight, no other variables such as bodyfat and fitness level. According to the BMI index most linebackers in the NFL are "obese".

 
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This is one of those topics where everyone is an expert but no one knows sh!t. Even my doctor tries to tell me what to eat and not to eat and he is a huge fat ass... but he is a doctor right? So he must know right? lol. I told him I was going to fix my cholesterol without statins by not eating wheat, corn, or refined sugars and by eating crap tons of animal fat and vegetables. He said I was crazy.
This. Although not all doctors are created equal, if I want nutritional advice, I'll see a nutritionist. If I have a broken leg, I'll see a doctor.

 
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:56 AM   #109
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Still hungry? Yes, tough. Maybe don't waste your calories on twinkies tomorrow. Restrict calories and you'll learn what to eat.
But that doesn't work.

I'm NEVER hungry, not even very much at dinner time. Really. I eat plenty of food, and almost always feel terrific. Because of the food I eat, I am always satiated and never hungry. I eat FAR more than 1200 calories a day now, but way back when when I counted calories I did not.

The whole calorie in/calorie out nutritional advice has been debunked in the last few years by research and science. It's true that you won't get fat if you eat a low enough calorie diet, but it's not optimum for proper nutrition for humans.
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:01 PM   #110
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Awesome progress, but don't give much credit to the BMI index number shown there. BMI only takes into account height and weight, no other variables such as bodyfat and fitness level. According to the BMI index most linebackers in the NFL are "obese".
Oh yeah, BMI is a joke. I think a "healthy" BMI would put me down in the 160-170s whereas I'm aiming for 180-195.
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