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Old 10-14-2012, 09:13 PM   #1
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Let me preface this by saying that I have very little experience in moving mass quantities of earth. That being said, I have a plan for a cheese/wine/beer cellar cut into my sloped backyard and wanted to pick some brains on the feasibility and cost of getting it done.

A backhoe will cost 680/week from Hertz, and I'd like to have the dirt moved relatively quickly.


This is a picture of the hill in my back yard.



A quick 3d SketchUp of what I want:






Anyone have any good experience and/or recommendations that could make this as easy and inexpensive as possible?


Thanks all!

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Old 10-14-2012, 09:53 PM   #2
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I don't know much about doing this, but I'm very intrigued. Subscribed!

 
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:13 PM   #3
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Plenty of ground (no pun) has been covered on this. Look up "root cellar" for how others have done it.

 
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:19 PM   #4
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Plenty of ground (no pun) has been covered on this. Look up "root cellar" for how others have done it.
Maybe you aren't sure what I am planning on doing?

The only related thread that search yields is from TxBrew, wondering if anyone has made a DIY Wine Cellar...

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f25/diy-wine-cellar-303885/

Are you referring to another forum? Can you give me some links?

 
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Old 10-15-2012, 12:39 AM   #5
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There are a few websites of people that have built Hobbit holes in hillsides, you might get some inspiration from those builds, when I get back to a computer Ill see of I can find some links. I hope you see this through, I love the idea!
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:50 AM   #6
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Found this! A bunch more square footage than what I am looking for- but the idea is great!



 
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:54 AM   #7
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There are a few websites of people that have built Hobbit holes in hillsides, you might get some inspiration from those builds, when I get back to a computer Ill see of I can find some links. I hope you see this through, I love the idea!
Check out this website - has some instructions for how they did it and links to other resources/sites - "Fridge is cooled by air coming underground through foundations" - pretty cool

http://www.simondale.net/house/index.htm

I know it's not quite what you're looking for, but I think its along similar lines.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:32 PM   #8
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this is one of the best books I have ever read on underground houses and shelters.

http://www.undergroundhousing.com/book.html

and here is a link to forum that has some great info on earth shelters and other things along those lines.

http://www.permies.com/forums/f-75/wofati-earth-berm

I have always wanted to live in an earth shelter, and one day I will. Have fun with this and good luck.

 
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:44 PM   #9
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After doing some more in-depth calculations, I don't think it will be possible to run a backhoe in the required space behind our home. If it is to be dug there, it would have to be by hand or small tiller; that is not preferrable.

My other (and probably better option) would be to build it into the crawl space and install a trap door down from the kitchen. The difficulty here is that I am 6'5" and my crawl space at that point is 5'10". I really am weary of digging below the vapor barrier for fear of disrupting the foundation, though I am sure it could be done safely with a contractor. This wouldn't afford me as much of the ground temperature advantage, but would greatly reduce upfront costs and possibly better improve the home value.

I will update with future findings. I plan on undergoing construction (whereever that is) by February, so remain patient and feel free to interject and comment. I am also open to cool additional ideas (ie incorporating a humidor?)

 
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:23 PM   #10
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It's not really relevant but I help a guy build his underground home several years back. It was dug out of a surprisingly gentle grade with what was dug out being used to cover the top and slope off either side and front corners. It was super neat. I'd love to live there.
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