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Old 10-12-2012, 04:13 AM   #11
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My capacity will be two 5 gallon batches. I could do one 10 gallon batch, i have 4 carboys and i like to do secondary fermentation. Boil kettles i have are 10g max ea.

Bru, only reason is that the parti-gyle seems to be a better use of grain, and ill be able to do 2 batches.

Do you reccomend i go single batch for my first?
I'm not necessarily making a recommendation, just wondering the reason you chose that method. That's all. I'm interested in the results of whatever you do!
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Old 10-12-2012, 04:20 AM   #12
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You'd have to go from lighter to darker if you're planning on a color change. You could do a hoppy session brown. And start with an IIPA or something. What's the capacity of the system you're buying?
I've never done this kind of brewing, so I admittedly am coming from a place of ignorance. I need someone to clarify this for me. It sounds like you're saying the wort from the second runnings would be darker than the first? If that's so, how is that possible? Wouldn't the majority of color extraction happen in the first time through?
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Old 10-12-2012, 05:14 AM   #13
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Darker beers use darker grains. So if you started with a highish gravity brown ale, your second running will be a lower gravity brown ale. If you wanted to do a brown and a pale, you would do the pale, pull out the first runnings, then add some darker malts into the MLT to make a brown beer. But obviously once the darker mats are added, you can't really remove them from the mash.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:49 AM   #14
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i also liked the suggestion of keeping some dme around so if you do need to bump the sugars a bit you can easily.

 
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:28 PM   #15
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Darker beers use darker grains. So if you started with a highish gravity brown ale, your second running will be a lower gravity brown ale. If you wanted to do a brown and a pale, you would do the pale, pull out the first runnings, then add some darker malts into the MLT to make a brown beer. But obviously once the darker mats are added, you can't really remove them from the mash.
Ah, I see what you're saying. So If I started with a bunch of dark malts I would have a dark beer, obviously. I would think they second runnings would be noticeably lighter though. Is this the case, or not?
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Yes. But the second runnings are still pretty close to the same style as the first. Not that much lighter really.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:14 PM   #17
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Is there any reason you can't just combine your first and second runnings into a single beer? As somebody who's also planning his first all-grain batch, I can tell you, I'm looking to remove as many other variables as possible from my brew day. Trying to do two beers at once seems to be adding complexity to what will already be a long and challenging brew.

 
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:12 AM   #18
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best answered by someone with experience but i believe you can, i think it would net a lower starting gravity though. is this right?

i want to make 2 different batches for variety. i have the bandwidth and 2 kegs so should be good.

 
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Is there any reason you can't just combine your first and second runnings into a single beer? As somebody who's also planning his first all-grain batch, I can tell you, I'm looking to remove as many other variables as possible from my brew day. Trying to do two beers at once seems to be adding complexity to what will already be a long and challenging brew.
That's basically batch sparging.
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Is there any reason you can't just combine your first and second runnings into a single beer? As somebody who's also planning his first all-grain batch, I can tell you, I'm looking to remove as many other variables as possible from my brew day. Trying to do two beers at once seems to be adding complexity to what will already be a long and challenging brew.
This IS batch sparging, to a T.
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