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Old 10-08-2012, 06:16 PM   #51
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I honestly think it is silly that people get all weird about categories like this. Life is not that cut and dry. It's not like you are a vegan or you're not, at least in most cases. For me, "vegan" is just a word for me to discribe what I choose to eat the majority of the time. People tend to assume that I eat dairy and eggs when I tell them that I'm a vegetarian. So vegan is the most accurate descriptor (a dietary api-vegan to be specific). And boy do some people get weird when I say the word "vegan". You'd think that I just kicked their dog or something.

 
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:18 PM   #52
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aaand here's one of the arguments they like to use; it's unoriginal as hell and has been responded to a thousand times on a thousand forums across the net, but hey, let's them feel superior "You wouldn't eat a dog, how is a cow any different? They're both so smart!"

But to answer your question, the President of the US ate a dog
So did I, on more than one occasion, and I bet it'll happen again at some point. It was neither the best nor the worst thing I've eaten.

Do you not eat dog because you feel that you are superior to me? That's not very nice.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:18 PM   #53
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Just out of curiosity, who here eats dog?
Can't say for sure, but I've traveled a lot, and have to say maybe.

 
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:31 PM   #54
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Sorry if I contributed to this de-railing, but we are wayyyy off topic now.

As mentioned before, the vegan aspect isn't difficult, the raw food part is. How could you possibly extract sugars from the grains at 104? Would you have to use a different base than grain?

And (forgive me if I'm wrong) aren't those who are on raw food diets attempting to keep out all toxins and things that inhibit health out of the body? That would pretty much rule out anything with alcohol in it, correct? Why would one who adheres to a raw food diet want to consume alcohol?

Vegan/Raw/Alcohol Free beer?

 
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:33 PM   #55
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Sorry if I contributed to this de-railing, but we are wayyyy off topic now.

As mentioned before, the vegan aspect isn't difficult, the raw food part is. How could you possibly extract sugars from the grains at 104? Would you have to use a different base than grain?
I think you could soak malted grain in RT water for a few days, but you might want to use campden to keep away the nasties.

 
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:38 PM   #56
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I think you could soak malted grain in RT water for a few days, but you might want to use campden to keep away the nasties.
Malting requires heating raw grain to ~130F if I remember correctly. Rules that out.

 
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:40 PM   #57
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Malting requires heating raw grain to ~130F if I remember correctly. Rules that out.
Oh right -- well then soak unmalted grain, it should still extract the sugars, might take a little longer though.

 
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:44 PM   #58
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I don't necessarily think you need to heat grain to malt it. Maybe it is common practice, but isn't malting just getting it wet and letting it grow for a few days? There is probably other methods to stopping the growing process -- perhaps freezing?

 
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:44 PM   #59
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If a guy wanted to make a raw vegan beer, couldn't he do so with some sort of pressure cooker? Could he achieve a boil at a lower temp? Would make adding and stirring things much more difficult.

 
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:47 PM   #60
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But I don't know what to do about converting the alpha acids in the hops to get the bitterness....

 
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