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Old 10-13-2012, 06:54 PM   #41
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We've been over this countless times here. This is not true as a blanket statement. I know for a 100% fact that it is perfectly legal to keep a keg in NYS for the deposit price. As a matter of fact, my local distributor just started selling kegs to homebrewers for $30.
They are not his to sell unless he bought them from the brewery.


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Old 10-13-2012, 06:56 PM   #42
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What a relief So Im not going to jail after all. I already had my toothbrush and sphincter shield all packed
No, but you will go to hell.

Go rent a car and see if they let you keep it because you paid a deposit.


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Old 10-13-2012, 07:00 PM   #43
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So, are you saying all keggles are stolen?
Not all of them. I wanted my purchase to be legit, since I don't care for thieves either. For this reason I went to a local Specs store and asked if they had damaged kegs they could legally sell me. They did, and they sold me one for $30.00 with a reciept.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:10 PM   #44
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They are not his to sell unless he bought them from the brewery.
Read my prior posts. NY law says that when a packaged product is sold, so is the package it comes in. I've researched and confirmed this through more than one source. The deposit is merely a civil arrangement agreed upon to offer incentive to return it. In NY, it is not a criminal act to keep a keg, PERIOD.
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Well, when they start charging $150 on a keg deposit in NYS we will know why.
Can't disagree with this honestly. But I'd imagine keg theft isn't really a major issue, because otherwise high deposits would be the norm.
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Read my prior posts. NY law says that when a packaged product is sold, so is the package it comes in. I've researched and confirmed this through more than one source. The deposit is merely a civil arrangement agreed upon to offer incentive to return it. In NY, it is not a criminal act to keep a keg, PERIOD.
OK if you say so.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:17 PM   #47
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Can't disagree with this honestly. But I'd imagine keg theft isn't really a major issue, because otherwise high deposits would be the norm.
Around here the least deposit I know of is $100.

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Old 10-13-2012, 07:22 PM   #48
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Read my prior posts. NY law says that when a packaged product is sold, so is the package it comes in. I've researched and confirmed this through more than one source. The deposit is merely a civil arrangement agreed upon to offer incentive to return it. In NY, it is not a criminal act to keep a keg, PERIOD.
Your prior post noted that you asked a prosecutor and were told that you wouldn't be prosecuted. All that means is that in NY stealing a keg is not a prosecutable offense. The fact that the brewery could initiate a civil case against you means that it is indeed against the law. You can't sue somebody for not breaking the law. By paying the deposit and promising to return the keg you've entered into a legal contract to do so, and by keeping the keg you've broken the contract and have therefore stolen it.

 
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Negative, I said it is not a crime. And your description of civil laws is not accurate by the way.

Look, argue all you want, but criminal matters vary from state to state and even between localities. Trust me, I know a thing or two about criminal law... BUT, to be sure, I still ran it by my friend and he assured me that the package is legally transferred with the product here in NY, so any deposit is merely a contractual (ie civil) arrangement and not criminally enforceable.
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I haven't purchased a keg in a long time, but I'm pretty sure that they have raised the deposit here also. Next time I'm at my distributor ill ask.


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