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Old 10-03-2012, 05:17 AM   #21
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Thought I would share from my experience. I bought 100 grams of synthetics caffeine from PureBulk.com while in school, it is very very very bitter, even when using the equivalent of 100mgs caffeine.



 
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:02 AM   #22
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I made a small 1 gallon batch of stout to which I added 800 mg of USP grade caffeine powder, which ended up being 80 mg/12 oz bottle after all was said and done . There is no detectable taste and the buzz is nice but not overwhelming. If I do end up giving any of them to anyone, it will be only one at a time. Not that I think someone who has a caffeine tolerance (like me) and a healthy heart couldn't handle it, but I'd rather play on the safe side.

From my understanding the danger lies in the nature of the effects experienced when alcohol and caffeine are co-administered. The individual doesn't feel drunk or tired as quickly, so they end up drinking more. There is also the danger of them drinking well past the point where their body would just give up and pass out, which is definitely bad. This is only an issue with people who are binge drinking, and taking in a lot of caffeine. 80 mg of caffeine is equivalent to a Red Bull, and similarly is not intrinsically dangerous.


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Old 10-03-2012, 07:22 AM   #23
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So I'm reading along in this thread, have no personal interest in 'boosting' up some drank, then I read this.

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Caffeine in it's purest form is actually a white powder, not liquid; and it's perfectly safe if you watch the measurements, which is something I've said at least twice already:
Now I can't get the image of someone snorting caffeine out of my mind.
Now I'm off to google 'snorting caffeine' then come back and finish reading the thread.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:56 PM   #24
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So I'm reading along in this thread, have no personal interest in 'boosting' up some drank, then I read this.



Now I can't get the image of someone snorting caffeine out of my mind.
Now I'm off to google 'snorting caffeine' then come back and finish reading the thread.
I would be really careful with this if you really want to snort pure caffeine powder (using NODOZ pills are different because the dosage is controlled, but still not too safe) because the amounts are very tiny. You need a scale that is precise down to 10 mg. Also I would recommend doing a 'plateau' hit to find out how your body reacts to it (a small, measured dose) because most likely snorting it will make the effects either stronger, quicker, or both, so you need to be careful.
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:10 PM   #25
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I just found this funny, effect on a caffeine crazed spider, courtesy of Wikipedia:


 
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Old 10-03-2012, 06:21 PM   #26
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I just found this funny, effect on a caffeine crazed spider, courtesy of Wikipedia:

This video too!

Classic.

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Old 10-03-2012, 06:47 PM   #27
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a cup of coffee or a cup of green tea (actually more caffeine than coffee), both of which have less caffeine than a red bull or some other sugary energy drink
Coffee usually has about 200mg of caffeine. Green tea comes in at about 40mg. Source Mayo clinic (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeine/AN01211) .

I agree with you that if you get the amounts right, you're good.

 
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:13 PM   #28
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Thank you for the input.

I'm going to split the batch. I'm interested in the 5150 because it's a good concentration, easy to manage and very little bitter after taste from my understanding. They also have a sweetened version but I plan on staying clear of that. I plan to keep the dosage to around the same as a cup of joe.

I've been leery to say what I am making because a few local breweries have stolen my ideas and made money.

I will say this Ale is going to be for a group of gamers mainly DND and I want it to be a +1 or even +2 Ale. If any of you roll dice I'm sure you have a smile on your face. Don't laugh at us 40 somethings getting together drinking magical brew, smoking kick ass cigars and freeing the world of evil. You just don't know what you're missing.

 
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:39 PM   #29
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Don't laugh at us 40 somethings getting together drinking magical brew, smoking kick ass cigars and freeing the world of evil. You just don't know what you're missing.
This is so weak I don't even know what to say.






















Chaotic evil is where it's at.

 
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:07 PM   #30
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Let us know how it turns out. This is something that I would try myself in different smaller batches of beer. I am a caffeine addict for sure and will fall asleep halfway though a night that I am drinking if I dont have a soda or redbull in the middle.


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