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Old 09-22-2012, 03:47 PM   #1
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I mentioned to a HB Shop owner that I use can kits and that I use the 23 liter glass carboys for it. He cringed when I told him I just make the kit to 20 liters and let it ferment on the yeast cake.

Is this another shop owner that doesn't know much about making beer outside his own process (met a few of those - one guy told me it was good to keep the lid of a fermenter so oxygen could get at the wort during the entire fermentation process - wow. Had the shop for 25 years and never understood aeration).

Anyways. The first guy seems to be convinced you needed to use a secondary, a tertiary and quartiary (that right?) for all beer every 5 days or it would be horrible. Condensing it was also supposed to make horrible beer.

So...Am I wrong in assuming no ill affects from condensing my beer? I've done it since day one so how would I know the difference, but I'm assuming it just gives you a richer taste and a stronger ABV. Am I right?

 
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:49 PM   #2
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If your LHBS staff isn't keeping up with the hobby, ignore their input...

Also, what the hell is condensing beer?

 
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:55 PM   #3
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You're right about having no ill effects, generally those kit and kilo beers make a pretty light tasting brew. By adding less water you will get a higher ABV and more flavor, you will get even more flavor by substituting the Dextrose for DME/LME. As for racking beer 4 times if I understand thats what you said, that just adds to much risk of oxidization and infection and so on and so forth and just isn't necessary. I started doing 1 week primary 2 week secondary than bottling. Now I usually do 2-3 weeks primary so the beer sits on the yeast cake giving the yeast a better oppurtunity to finish up, than rack to secondary for a few days to a week to clear it up a bit. You don't need secondary at all but it's just what I like and feels gives me a cleaner beer with next to no yeast cake in the bottle. So yeah ignore your brew guy and go by what you know works for you.

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Old 09-22-2012, 04:23 PM   #4
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Less water means more maltiness, higher ABV and less bitterness.

Definitely do not need to rack every five days.

 
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:24 PM   #5
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Also, what the hell is condensing beer?
What I mean is, the can kit requires you mix in water so the final solution is 23 liters. I add less water so the final mix of wort is only 20 liters before I pitch my yeast.

 
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:29 PM   #6
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What I mean is, the can kit requires you mix in water so the final solution is 23 liters. I add less water so the final mix of wort is only 20 liters before I pitch my yeast.
Oh ok, so you are just making a slightly higher gravity beer from the kit... just making a little less of it? I don't see anything wrong with that.

 
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:44 PM   #7
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Oh ok, so you are just making a slightly higher gravity beer from the kit... just making a little less of it? I don't see anything wrong with that.
Agreed. I thought the OP was getting at distilling of some sort...

 
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:59 PM   #8
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quartiary (that right?)
Quaternary (since you asked...)
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:05 PM   #9
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Agreed. I thought the OP was getting at distilling of some sort...
What's OP refer to? Seen this one used a lot....

 
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:09 PM   #10
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Yeah....bad but understandable title.

Rather than condensing, you are mixing it a little strong.

Hoped for a new dicussion of eisbocking or distilling

 
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