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Old 01-18-2013, 04:29 PM   #51
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Chip left also?? I thought he stayed.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:51 PM   #52
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Chip left also?? I thought he stayed.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:20 PM   #53
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Just has been my experience that these firms require large returns for their investments which requires freeing up cash, the easiest way to free up cash is by payroll cuts, especially higher level employees.
That's a good point, but if I'm not mistaken, Dawson was also high in the marketing department for NB. Seeing as NB relies heavily on marketing compared to say, Midwest, I don't know if he'd be one they'd look to get rid of.

I'm not saying NB changing hands didn't play into this, but NB opened a new store in Mpls and updated the old store in St. P. Around the same time as this changing of the guard happened. They also seem to have increased the number of employees on the floor at both. Doesn't sound like budget cuts were at the top of this new firm's list.

I dunno, personally, I've been enjoying Chip's blog. Dawson and Keeler have new blogs too that are good reads, but Chip is diving right into the heart of what we love; beer and food. I really don't care about the "why's", it sucks to see BTV become a thing of the past, but I think all three dudes still have a lot to contribute to the home brewing community.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:28 PM   #54
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I've been following all three of their blogs since I discovered them. Keeler's is a text and picture blog only so far, brewing/beer stuff along with quite a bit about his art endeavors. Dawson's is pretty much beer and brewing related. He puts up some occasional short videos. Chip's is just getting off the ground, but I'm looking forward to future videos and am interested to see what he includes from the food side.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:01 PM   #55
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I could be wrong in my assessment . But I believe the Minneapolis store opened a few months before the equity firms arrival and the departure of these guys was about 6 months after. Timing is very odd. Adding salespeople really means nothing, as a marketing director's(Keeeler I thing was in this position) cost is an order of magnitude higher. Also who leaves a good job when they do not have a new one waiting?

 
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:39 PM   #56
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I've been following all three of their blogs since I discovered them. Keeler's is a text and picture blog only so far, brewing/beer stuff along with quite a bit about his art endeavors. Dawson's is pretty much beer and brewing related. He puts up some occasional short videos. Chip's is just getting off the ground, but I'm looking forward to future videos and am interested to see what he includes from the food side.
Can you post the links? Love to follow them

 
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:42 PM   #57
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Before we all totally trash NB, remember they sponsor the Jamil shows for years - that gets my business if nothing else.

 
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Before we all totally trash NB, remember they sponsor the Jamil shows for years - that gets my business if nothing else.
I do not think this is a reason to stop purchasing at NB if they have what you need at the best competitive price. I will keep on buying there almost exclusively as their St Paul store is just a few blocks away from my house, they are my local HBS. Still a great place to buy what I need for me. I never really bought from them because of BTV , but the fact that they would spend money on something like that did make me feel good about the management at NB. Do not have that same feeling any more. If you are looking for a big online place that gives back to the brewing community I would say More Beer is now way ahead of NB. If you want to support a small family bushiness always go to your local home brew shop before one of the larger online stores!

 
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I do not think this is a reason to stop purchasing at NB if they have what you need at the best competitive price. I will keep on buying there almost exclusively as their St Paul store is just a few blocks away from my house, they are my local HBS. Still a great place to buy what I need for me. I never really bought from them because of BTV , but the fact that they would spend money on something like that did make me feel good about the management at NB. Do not have that same feeling any more. If you are looking for a big online place that gives back to the brewing community I would say More Beer is now way ahead of NB. If you want to support a small family bushiness always go to your local home brew shop before one of the larger online stores!
Echoing this, always support the local store unless they aren't a good place or you don't have one. There is no reason to buy online if there is a homebrew store 15 min away, even if you are going to spend a few dollars more.
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Echoing this, always support the local store unless they aren't a good place or you don't have one. There is no reason to buy online if there is a homebrew store 15 min away, even if you are going to spend a few dollars more.
Agree - though I will not change a recipe just because myLHBS does not have something - then I order from NB. Also, equipment purchases I always do for NB. I'm in MN, so given the options online I always go with NB.

 
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