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Old 01-20-2013, 02:25 AM   #11
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The brew last night went great and my bottle harvested yeast started bubbling. If this clone comes out close to AoD I will post it up for you guys.
How did this turn out?

 
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:59 PM   #12
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anddddddddd BUMP. Hoping for at least a recipe. Something to start with. Anybody made any headway on this?

 
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Old 01-20-2014, 05:14 AM   #13
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anddddddddd BUMP. Hoping for at least a recipe. Something to start with. Anybody made any headway on this?
I should of bought that second bottle this summer... :-(

 
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Old 02-02-2016, 01:22 AM   #14
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Resurrecting this.

Just had this and didn't think to look for a clone until after u had rinsed the bottle. Guess I should have tried harvesting the yeast.

Got the bottle in a gift lack for Christmas. Would drink daily for the rest of my life.

Any suggestions on recipe or suitable off the shelf yeasts?!
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Old 02-14-2016, 01:23 PM   #15
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So this guy built the recipe below - probably largely based on the information on the web that has been posted in this thread as well.

I (of course) failed to harvest the yeast from my AoD bottle - but from what I understand they use the same strain for most of their beers - and that I can either culture it from another bottle or three or get the Northeastern Abbey yeast from The Yeast Bay (anyone care to confirm that this is Ommegang and not actually Allagash? He's very vague about its origin...)

Anyway, the recipe below. I'm wondering if its a bit aggressive on specialty malts. From what I've read, Midnight Wheat is supposed to be pretty mellow as far as a roasted malt goes, but the CaraMunich, Flaked Oats, and Carapils and Aromatic all clock in at 6% each of the grain bill, and the Midnight Wheat at 8%. Seems high.

Might have to do a few iterations on this.



http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=376746

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Any thoughts or experience would be greatly appreciated. This beer rocks and I'd like to get close so that I can experiment with a few different things. I emailed Ommegang but the responder was unwilling to provide any guidance.

(5.5 gallons to the fermenter)

5.5lb Belgian Pilsner
5.5lb American Pale
3.5lb Midnight Wheat
1.25lb Cara Crystal
12oz Aromatic
12oz CaraPils
8oz Flaked Oats
1.5oz Spalter Select (60 min)
1oz Styrian Goldings (15 min)
Ommegang house yeast
OG = 1.081, IBU = 26
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Old 02-16-2016, 02:36 PM   #16
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That is a very large amount of midnight wheat - I would have a hard time thinking, that at that volume, you wouldn't get quite the roasty kick from it. I would probably scale that back and shoot for an SRM of around 40

 
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:04 PM   #17
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That is a very large amount of midnight wheat - I would have a hard time thinking, that at that volume, you wouldn't get quite the roasty kick from it. I would probably scale that back and shoot for an SRM of around 40
I presume you're talking about the grain bill I quoted, which calls for 21% Midnight wheat. I've already dine exactly what you proposed and scaled back to ~40 SRM (6-8% ) I'm just wondering about the consequences on the thicker mouthfeel that AoD seemed to actually have, which, I imagine, is why the person I quoted had so much in there.
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Ah gotcha - maybe I should read the whole post next time!

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Malts: Pils, pale, cara crystal, aroma, Midnight Wheat, Cara Pils, flaked oats. Hops: Spalter Select and Styrian Golding. Yeast: Ommegang house yeast. Spices: None
OG: 19.5 Plato
FG: 4.18 Plato
ABV 8.7%
IBU 24
Having had the beer, it did have a pleasantly smooth mouthfeel and it wasn't sticky - I would definitely bump up the oats, and not go too crazy with the cara crystal (could be caramunich, but I'm thinking dingemans cara 20 or 40). I've gotten head retention contribution from as little as 3% carapils... so I would probably start there.

You definitely don't want this beer to get too dry or the midnight wheat's subtle roast character might not be too subtle..it's quite a balancing act.

 
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:55 PM   #19
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I made what was supposed to be a Stone Vertical Epic 06 clone, but used Midnight Wheat instead of Dark malt and the roast is very subtle but there in the recipe below and I used Debittered Black Malt as well. This is using double what I used and I don't pick up the roast in Art of Darkness so would likely go down to maybe .75lb in this.

2-Row 14.8lbs
Midnight Wheat 1.17lbs
Dingemanns Debittered Black Malt .85lbs
White Wheat .1lb

 
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Old 02-18-2016, 04:12 PM   #20
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So your recipe there has it at 7%, 0.75lbs would be 4.5%... I think I will keep in for about 6%.

This is what my first attempt currently looks like, might get tweaked before I brew it. Going to build up a starter next week, need to order ingredients as well. Probably going to get enough to do a few iterations.
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