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Old 09-06-2012, 07:00 PM   #1
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These posts, although fictional are very similar to ones I have read.
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Oh my gawd, you can't add an extra teaspoon of grains unless you adjust your hop amount.
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Just throw in the whole 2 oz pack, you can't have too many hops.
Why is it that you HAVE to balance sweetness/maltiness with hops, but you don't need to balance hops with maltiness?
I enjoy the flavor and bitterness of hops, but I think an IPA is overkill, so some of the beers out there annoy me. Hopzilla (and others) are praised for being unbalanced, but a sweet beer would be criticized or more likely mocked.

This was a rant, but I wouldn't mind feedback. Cheers!

 
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:09 PM   #2
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Who says you have to?

I guess Dog Fish Head didn't get the memo. They seem to do alright regardless.

IPA is overkill. That was the point. But under it's original conception it was not meant to be consumed so early.

 
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:18 PM   #3
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IPA is a myth... I hear they are all but extinct...

That being said... Have you lost your mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!... I have fresh hops in my pillows, in the shower... I boiled them down into an aerosol and use them like AXE... I tried making a lubricant, but the wife said NO WAY... oh well
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:22 PM   #4
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Brew what you like.

If you like malty, go for it.
If you like hops, go for it.

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Old 09-06-2012, 07:23 PM   #5
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I tried making a lubricant, but the wife said NO WAY... oh well
Well they do have an anti microbial quality. Though they seem to do nothing to yeast

I think I understand what the OP is getting at. I like hops, but I also like malt. Lately though it seems everyone is hung up on adding more and more hops and hop flavor to their beer, sort of like hot sauces having to have the qualities of pepper spray in order to be good.
I will say a hoppy beer is really nice after a hard mountain bike ride, for some reason hops is the best flavor in the world then.

 
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:24 PM   #6
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Hop monsters just market better than malt monsters.....
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:51 PM   #7
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I agree. At the beer fest, and of 75 beers or so, I'd say almost half were IPAs or related. I also agree that the industry is very hung up on hoppy beers. Could just be a fad. Maybe it will blow over eventually.
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:52 PM   #8
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Even English bitters,ESB's,& thelike still have some hops in them,even though they are quite malty. You need some balance, or the beer's malty sweetness would seem a bit much. Even a bit unbalanced or plain.
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:57 PM   #9
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I think ALL beers need balance to be good. Some, like a Munich dunkel, will be balanced toward the malt while some (IPA) will be balanced towards the hops, but it still needs balance.

For a hop bomb, the beer needs a malt "backbone" to provide balance as well as making the beer drinkable. I joke that "mo' hops is mo' better" as I love a hoppy beer but the beer has to be a great balance of hop flavor, aroma, bitterness, and malt or it's not a good beer.

There are lots of sweet beers that aren't criticized or mocked- some of the best dopplebocks have no hops flavor or aroma at all and definitely lean toward the sweet, as do many Scottish ales. It's all about the style- I wouldn't want a Scottish IPA nor would I want a hoppy dopplebock as much as I love hops.

Maybe it's not fashionable to brew "to style" around homebrewers, but I often do because having a hoppy bock would be weird while a malty IPA might also be weird, due to the lack of balance.
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:58 PM   #10
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Brew what you like.

If you like malty, go for it.
If you like hops, go for it.
^ Just about everything after this post is either wrong or redundant. Who cares what breweries are putting out to the public? You're a homebrewer. You have the ability to brew almost anything you want.

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