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Old 09-07-2012, 03:28 PM   #11
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My software has a tick box for "hop bag", checking it adds about 10% to the hop bill.

 
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:35 PM   #12
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>>My software has a tick box for "hop bag", checking it adds about 10% to the hop bill.

Could well be. The question I have is do you squeeze out the trapped wort?
My hops bag may be a bit too small, and when I pull it out, there is trapped wort.
I make a point of draining it, and squeezing it.
So am I really losing 10%? Or is it closer to 5% like I posted?

Also - the spider allows much more space for the hops to move around.
So an unsqueezed hops bag may well be 10%, maybe even more.
But a spider, and especially if you drain it, and squeeze it, will probably be a lot less.

 
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:54 PM   #13
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I pull my bag of soaked hops out of the wert and let it drain a couple of minutes but I don't squeeze - not sure if that would matter but it's pretty hot and I figured after draining I wasn't losing that much.

Just my 2

 
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:31 PM   #14
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The paint strainer bags are fine enough to not let the hop pellets break up and escape into the wort.

As for draining, when the boil is done and the wort is being cooled I just pick up the hop spider and let it drain into the kettle. I get most of the wort out, but not all. I don't lose any sleep over it.

And as for my original post about not losing any utilization, I'm sure there might be a small amount (as logdrum pointed out with the software compensation) but I have used the hop schedules with and without and the beer always tastes good. I don't think it's noticeable.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:51 PM   #15
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Ok here's a question...anyone ever use a hop bag for dry hopping in a keg?

That's what I want...something that I can dry hop in my keg with (and 99% of the time I'm using pellet hops).

I've considered a Randal, but would rather not worry about another piece of equipment in my kegger.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:14 PM   #16
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I use a hop spider with a Paint Strainer plus bag the hops in bags as well IMO i am not waswting any hops plus gives me a cleaner Wort IMO !!!

 
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Old 09-07-2012, 09:18 PM   #17
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Ok here's a question...anyone ever use a hop bag for dry hopping in a keg?

That's what I want...something that I can dry hop in my keg with (and 99% of the time I'm using pellet hops).

I've considered a Randal, but would rather not worry about another piece of equipment in my kegger.
I've used a bag in the keg w leaf hops many times. With pellets only once. This is with a 1gal paint strainer; I found the hop residue w pellets to be a bit much. I've taken to dry hopping in primary @ about 60% fermentation. This coupled w the "hop stand" trick works wonders.

 
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:52 PM   #18
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When using Pellet hops, is the mesh of the Paint Strainer bag fine enough?

Does the Paint Strainer bag let out little particles of Pellet Hops that end up at the bottom of the kettle (or worse, in your beer)?

The reason I ask is I use a hop strainer bag. I think it's probably a tighter weave (finer) than the paint strainer bag, but its also smaller, meaning the hops get somewhat compressed.
If a paint strainer bag works just as well, maybe I will switch.
Yes the paint strainer is fine enough to use with the pellet hops. I have have very few if any get into the wort. I figured if any gets into the wort/ fermenter its negligable.

 
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:56 AM   #19
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It depends how big your bag is. A small bag might reduce utilization a little, a bigger bag less so.

Let me ask you: So what if using a Spider reduces utilization 4.7332%? Its unlikely you would notice that.
4.7332%?

No. But 4.7333%, absolutely.

I just started using a hop bag, and am looking to get an all stainless hop spider built.

 
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:42 PM   #20
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I use a five gallon paint strainer bag. The bags are dirt cheap and the wort flows through just fine. However, I would say 25-35% of the overall hop particles get through the bag. I have begun using a second bag and putting it into my fermenter. Then drain the wort through that and it catches a good deal of the particles. It's one more bag to clean, but no big deal.

 
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