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Old 05-07-2013, 02:53 AM   #951
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You can do this into a bucket, then funnel into a carboy. You will not risk infection with chilled wort, you will only be adding need oxygen!
I actually did transfer via gravity from by boil kettle to my hlt (after I sanitized it) through my 300micron filter. It caught a lot of the hot break but was a slow process since the filter was getting clogged. I ran the tube up and down the inside of the filter to remove some of the hot break from the sides and it flowed a lot better.

Something I noticed though... Not sure if it was because it was an extract or more because no whirlfloc was used but the hot break was a much finer almost gritty mixture instead of larger cottage cheese like clumps.

 
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:20 PM   #952
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You can do this into a bucket, then funnel into a carboy. You will not risk infection with chilled wort, you will only be adding need oxygen!
how can you say he won't be risking infection with chilled wort? cool wort is very infection-prone: that's why we want to cool it ASAP, pitch yeast ASAP, and then lock it away in a sealed bucket or carboy: to prevent infection. plastic buckets can get scratches that are hard to sanitize and bugs can hide in those crevasses. there are all sorts of wild yeast and bacteria floating in the air.

i'm pretty sure the risk of infection is relatively low, but you can't say that there isn't any risk at all. your point about aeration is a good one.
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:42 PM   #953
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Thanks for the feedback on the Keg Dry Hopper. I bought one but haven't used it yet. The glass carboy dry hopper I have used, but with pellet hops. It did a pretty good job, as we have a great hop aroma and taste in the Rye IPA that we brewed about a month ago.
I have the carboy hopper, not the keg hopper.

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Neat, that was the 300 mesh on the spider?

I wonder if you did the hot break first before adding hops that it wouldn't clog later on filtering to the kettle.
Yes, it was the 300 micron.

 
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:44 PM   #954
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I actually did transfer via gravity from by boil kettle to my hlt (after I sanitized it) through my 300micron filter. It caught a lot of the hot break but was a slow process since the filter was getting clogged. I ran the tube up and down the inside of the filter to remove some of the hot break from the sides and it flowed a lot better.

Something I noticed though... Not sure if it was because it was an extract or more because no whirlfloc was used but the hot break was a much finer almost gritty mixture instead of larger cottage cheese like clumps.
If you have a helper with you, you can have them take a large sanitized spoon and stir around in the filter while you monitor the siphon/transfer tubing. That worked best to minimize clogging for me.

 
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:27 PM   #955
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how can you say he won't be risking infection with chilled wort? cool wort is very infection-prone: that's why we want to cool it ASAP, pitch yeast ASAP, and then lock it away in a sealed bucket or carboy: to prevent infection. plastic buckets can get scratches that are hard to sanitize and bugs can hide in those crevasses. there are all sorts of wild yeast and bacteria floating in the air.

i'm pretty sure the risk of infection is relatively low, but you can't say that there isn't any risk at all. your point about aeration is a good one.
Transferring it from kettle to bucket to carboy will not be risking infection, also what about whirlpooling and siphoning? That takes much longer.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:33 PM   #956
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Can anyone tell me how many oz of leaf hops will fit in like a 6"x10" hop spider?

 
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:03 PM   #957
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Can anyone tell me how many oz of leaf hops will fit in like a 6"x10" hop spider?
Not sure, but why would you want to do this? I think the main use for the spider is to keep the finer hop pellet gunk out of your carboy. For leaf, a simple bazooka tube works well as long as it doesn't get clogged. If you whirlpool and have the tube or pickup off to the side, seems that would be a better solution. I would think you could get half a pound in it, but have not done any tests to see. Not trying to rain on your parade either!

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Not sure, but why would you want to do this? I think the main use for the spider is to keep the finer hop pellet gunk out of your carboy. For leaf, a simple bazooka tube works well as long as it doesn't get clogged. If you whirlpool and have the tube or pickup off to the side, seems that would be a better solution. I would think you could get half a pound in it, but have not done any tests to see. Not trying to rain on your parade either!

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That's the point of a hop spider - to be able to remove the hops from the kettle. In addition, I don't whirlpool, I don't have a bazooka screen, whatever that is, and I don't have a tangential inlet.

 
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:52 PM   #959
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Not sure, but why would you want to do this? I think the main use for the spider is to keep the finer hop pellet gunk out of your carboy. For leaf, a simple bazooka tube works well as long as it doesn't get clogged. If you whirlpool and have the tube or pickup off to the side, seems that would be a better solution. I would think you could get half a pound in it, but have not done any tests to see. Not trying to rain on your parade either!

Cheers!
That's what I use for my leaf hop brews, and it's definitely the best plan. You can dump a ton of hops in and I've never had a clog. What's more, the bed of leaf hops act as a filter and all the break material seems to stick to them. The only problem is that they soak up a serious quantity of wort. I will remedy that by scooping them over to the side of the kettle and pressing the wort out with a sanitized stainless slotted spoon.

 
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Old 05-14-2013, 12:28 AM   #960
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Here's 4 pictures from my zombie dust brew day. This is a 6x10" 400 micron filter inside a megapot, my immersion chiller fit juuuuust inside next to it.



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There was about a 4" hop trub cake after 3.5 oz of hops I put into the filter. Overall, I am super impressed, I think the 400 is perfect for a setup with an IC.

 
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