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Old 11-29-2012, 06:52 PM   #271
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just ordered mine, will report back once i get to use it... not sure when that'll be, might be a few weeks.


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Old 12-02-2012, 07:33 PM   #272
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I'm straight worried that my hop utilization will drop with this.

I've gotten 3 brews under my belt with it. In the middle of the 3rd with it so far, and I've found that it clogs a bit, and slows down the flow once you really start adding hops, and going deeper into the boil

I've got a couple of ounces.. probably... 4 or 5oz all pellets in mine right now, and when I pull it out, it's slow as HELL to drain. Infact when I drop it back in the pot, it floats a bit, before it slowly sinks because the screen is clogged. I do however, see hop sludge in the kettle when I'm done, and when I stir in the screen I can see some of it coming out through the screen a bit..

I have the 300 micron mesh..


Jury is still out, IMO. If the beers taste fine, and hoppy, then I'll roll with it.. Otherwise... ehhh.
Gonna see how the beers turn out, but man..


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Old 12-02-2012, 07:38 PM   #273
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I'm straight worried that my hop utilization will drop with this.

I've gotten 3 brews under my belt with it. In the middle of the 3rd with it so far, and I've found that it clogs a bit, and slows down the flow once you really start adding hops, and going deeper into the boil

I've got a couple of ounces.. probably... 4 or 5oz all pellets in mine right now, and when I pull it out, it's slow as HELL to drain. Infact when I drop it back in the pot, it floats a bit, before it slowly sinks because the screen is clogged. I do however, see hop sludge in the kettle when I'm done, and when I stir in the screen I can see some of it coming out through the screen a bit..

I have the 300 micron mesh..


Jury is still out, IMO. If the beers taste fine, and hoppy, then I'll roll with it.. Otherwise... ehhh.
Gonna see how the beers turn out, but man..
My thoughts EXACTLY! Same experience last weekend.

I think 400 mesh would be a better choice.

 
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:41 PM   #274
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My thoughts EXACTLY! Same experience last weekend.

I think 400 mesh would be a better choice.

I"m wondering if the 400 would clog less.... but then.. if it did even half as bad as the 300 does, then I would see the 400 being worse.

I'm tempted to just go to tossing all my hops in the boil again if they are pellets, and keep the leaf in here only.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:10 PM   #275
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I"m wondering if the 400 would clog less.... but then.. if it did even half as bad as the 300 does, then I would see the 400 being worse.

I'm tempted to just go to tossing all my hops in the boil again if they are pellets, and keep the leaf in here only.
You make no sense.

 
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:12 PM   #276
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My thoughts EXACTLY! Same experience last weekend.

I think 400 mesh would be a better choice.
I'm starting to think along the same lines, I had 12oz of pellets in here for a batch last week and it drained pretty slow. I need to get off my butt and ship back my 200 so I can test out the 400 and see how it does.

 
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:37 AM   #277
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You make no sense.
What? I understand perfectly well.. You just need more homebrew.

 
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:38 AM   #278
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You make no sense.
No, what makes no sense is how this thing clogs up so damn bad, even CLEANING it out, it holds water in it after I've dumped the hops.



This is all the hops I used.. Roughly.. 4 ounces, maybe 5oz.



This is the strainer.. with the hops dumped, and I've taken my hose with a HP tip and sprayed water back through the strainer from the outside. No real large clumps of hops in there, all dumped. It's so clogged, it's holding water long enough I can drop the hose, and pull out my phone to take a picture.



Here's a side view of said hop dam. I stopped spraying a section from the outside. Notice to the left, the water INSIDE of the screen.

If I can't get the wort out of it, how on earth would one assume that it's boiling your hops and running it through all of the wort in the pot. This screen is essentially once it gets clogged up, it's own mini kettle in a kettle.

I'm hoping I got some hop flavor in my beer, I would think I got some, but to what extent. I still had hop particulate in the kettle when I whirlpooled and drained it, much less than in the past, but still had some none the less.
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What? I understand perfectly well.. You just need more homebrew.

He's probably somewhat offended in his find that now people realize they aren't the cats ass.
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No, what makes no sense is how this thing clogs up so damn bad, even CLEANING it out, it holds water in it after I've dumped the hops.

This is all the hops I used.. Roughly.. 4 ounces, maybe 5oz.

This is the strainer.. with the hops dumped, and I've taken my hose with a HP tip and sprayed water back through the strainer from the outside. No real large clumps of hops in there, all dumped. It's so clogged, it's holding water long enough I can drop the hose, and pull out my phone to take a picture.

Here's a side view of said hop dam. I stopped spraying a section from the outside. Notice to the left, the water INSIDE of the screen.

If I can't get the wort out of it, how on earth would one assume that it's boiling your hops and running it through all of the wort in the pot. This screen is essentially once it gets clogged up, it's own mini kettle in a kettle.

I'm hoping I got some hop flavor in my beer, I would think I got some, but to what extent. I still had hop particulate in the kettle when I whirlpooled and drained it, much less than in the past, but still had some none the less.
I've had lots of beer made using this and my hop utilization has been fine, certainly better than it has ever been in bags. Cleaning it is also a snap.... Maybe you ended up with 200 micro instead of 300?? After reading posts of people that use the 400 including Tom from Adventures in Homebrewing I'm definitely thinking that the 400 offers better circulation and draining but am unsure at how much trub will be left behind since I haven't used one.....



 
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