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Old 09-01-2012, 03:35 PM   #21
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I like macro beer the same way I like Taco Bell. It's pretty damn good for the price. Hating it, or at least verbalizing that hate, only serves the purpose of emphasizing one's douchebagery.
Every now and then you have to eat off the dollar menu. I love the dollar cheeze burgers at MC's. Normaly I have a case of a miller or budproduct in the house. i enjoy them
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Old 09-02-2012, 12:18 AM   #22
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Every now and then you have to eat off the dollar menu. I love the dollar cheeze burgers at MC's. Normaly I have a case of a miller or budproduct in the house. i enjoy them
Cheers, pal. Lately, I keep Keystone Light on hand... and don't whine like a b*tch about it
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Old 09-02-2012, 12:28 AM   #23
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Cheers, pal. Lately, I keep Keystone Light on hand... and don't whine like a b*tch about it
I actually prefer a good stone to all the rest of the swill. If I wasn't drinking craft brews I was drinking keystone while in college.
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Old 09-02-2012, 01:59 AM   #24
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The "drink this and think of ____" trick can be done to find almost anything in any beer. This is why beer labels often have long descriptions about what you should taste and smell. This primer for your senses is powerful. It's also why genuine taste tests are blind.
Yep. I really dislike Bud, but there's definitely no acetaldehyde in it. That's a major flaw, and it isn't something that can be masked in a light lager like that. It's also pretty easy to fix. If it ever happened in one batch, I can pretty much guarantee that the folks at AB would get it taken care of ASAP.
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:12 AM   #25
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They age Budweiser on beech wood... They proudly use rice...
Beech Wood you say.... Maybe that's why i get headaches from anything with "Bud" in the name. an unexplainable phenomenon that stems from Bud and Bud only. I drink one or 2 Budweiser, BL, BL Lime...s and i have nasty hang over type headache within an hour. I drink a lot of beer. Large scale and small. and am always trying new micro brews and craft beers. I am still dumfounded at these headaches. No problems with Miller, Michelobe, Keystone, or any other 'monstrous' beer. Thought maybe it was the rice for a long time too...

Anyone else experience this?
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:18 AM   #26
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Now I know they are capable of making great beer. Anybody remember the hefeweizen under the Michelob label a few years ago?


Was that 'Crossroads Hefeweizen'. I only got one six pack and I recall it was good.

 
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Yep. I really dislike Bud, but there's definitely no acetaldehyde in it. That's a major flaw, and it isn't something that can be masked in a light lager like that. It's also pretty easy to fix. If it ever happened in one batch, I can pretty much guarantee that the folks at AB would get it taken care of ASAP.
Hate to tell you but it is there. Maybe you don't taste it but I'm not the only one. I have heard it from many others. Just did a quick google search and it is all over the place.

Sorry but when people tell me I dont taste what I taste it pisses me off.

 
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:45 AM   #28
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Yep. I really dislike Bud, but there's definitely no acetaldehyde in it. That's a major flaw, and it isn't something that can be masked in a light lager like that. It's also pretty easy to fix. If it ever happened in one batch, I can pretty much guarantee that the folks at AB would get it taken care of ASAP.
Ah, but there is. It's subtle, but it's a distinct characteristic of their yeast. It's a delicate balance with such a light lager, and it's no mistake.

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This yeast is used to produce American style lagers. Dry and clean with a very slight apple fruitiness. Sulfur and diacetyl production is minimal.
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Ah, but there is. It's subtle, but it's a distinct characteristic of their yeast. It's a delicate balance with such a light lager, and it's no mistake.

From the description of the commercially available lager yeast strain from A-B:
Acetaldehyde usually dissipates with chilling and minimal age. That slight "apple fruitiness" may not necessarily be acetaldehyde, but a characteristic of the yeast..? I don't know. But I'm going to a AAA baseball game tomorrow night and plan on chugging a few Buds... happily. Who f*cking cares?!?! Homebrewing is not a pretentious sport...
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An apple character from yeast other than acetaldehyde? Possibly. Ethyl-2-methylbutyrate has a ripe apple aroma at 0.1 ppb threshold, but I'm not sure whether it's in Budweiser, or at what concentration.

If I recall correctly, A-B has an acetaldehyde concentration of 6 ppm, which is above the flavor threshold. I can't remember where I heard/read this, so it might have to be confirmed.

Regardless, there is certainly an apple character, and they admit at least some of it comes from their yeast. It's there on purpose; otherwise it wouldn't be there at all.
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