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Old 08-29-2012, 05:58 PM   #1
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I'm getting started on an automated brewery and was wondering the pros and cons of Brewtroller and BCS. Which one would you rather have and why. For some background I'm making a three Keggle HERMS setup with two pumps. For right now I just want to be able to control temps with the controller but shortly I'm going to be automating things more and more with valves and what not.

 
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:06 PM   #2
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Try this thread: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f170/control-system-237670/

 
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:16 PM   #3
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Thanks, I probably missed that one because the title didn't jump out to me.

 
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 PM   #4
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That thread is over a year old and there have been plenty of updates to both systems since then. I can speak for brewtroller and am in the middle of building a controller based around it. I can say that it is extremely powerful and has tons of great features. The downside is that there is a HUGE learning curve (at least for me) and has taken more time than I expected to get it all put together. Their support has been top notch as well.

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Old 09-05-2012, 11:47 PM   #5
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+1 for Brewtroller

Still building out my system, but I highly recommend the IRC channel. Everyone has been more then helpful on there.

 
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:46 PM   #6
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I'm in the same boat as the OP. I have been leaning toward the BCS because of the GUI but now that brewtroller has one it seems like it would be better for future expansion. Does anyone know how many processes the brewtroller supports at one time? I think the BCS claims 8. I am wondering because I want to be able to control a heated/cooled ferm chamber, my keezer, and brew all at the same time. Also does the analog input module for brewtroller mean you can attach as many temp inputs as you want?

Not trying to thread jack just snowballing.

 
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:06 PM   #7
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Might get more info here http://www.oscsys.com/projects/brewtroller/?id=start I have Brewtroller for E herms and love it.

 
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:23 PM   #8
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Bumping this thread because I did some reading.

Looks like Brewtroller supports 9 processes, and BCS462 supports 8.

Does anyone know what is classified as a process?

If I have a heated/cooled ferm chamber is that one process or two?

Thanks.

 
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:46 PM   #9
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Bumping this thread because I did some reading.

Looks like Brewtroller supports 9 processes, and BCS462 supports 8.

Does anyone know what is classified as a process?

If I have a heated/cooled ferm chamber is that one process or two?

Thanks.
Your heated/cooled ferm chamber would be one process. I previously ran my two kegerators (each w/ a temp probe & set point) plus my ferm chamber (heated & cooled) as one process. Just recently I switched it out to be two processes, only because I mess with the ferm process a bit, but never touch the kegerator temp process.

For a brew day, I use 5 processes. In the BCS, one process can start and stop other processes, so my system flows from one process to the other and sometimes with processes running concurrently.

I start the MLT process, but when I mash in, the BCS then kicks off the HLT processes. When it's time to sparge, the Fly Sparge process is kicked off. After sparging for a bit, the Boil Process is kicked off to start heating wort before sparging is done. Once at a boil, the hop addition process is kicked off to signal when each hop addition should be added - that runs simultaneously with the boil process.

Here are my processes:

- MLT Heat/Hold
- HLT Heat/Hold
- Fly Sparge
- Boil Process
- Hop Additions

There are links in my signature for info on my BCS gui screen where you can see the processes.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:26 PM   #10
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I looked at both and went with a BCS. I'm still working on setting up my system. Setting up my BCS took about an hour and made a sample process to try out when I'm ready.

I went on the brewtroller irc channel and they said basically the brewtroller is more diy, BCS more cookie cutter. (I agree)
I just want to brew beer, so the BCS works for that.

 
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