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Old 09-10-2012, 10:38 PM   #51
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Awesome!

I just ordered some more castor oil, and it should be here tomorrow or the next day. Next up for me is shampoo bars! I like the shampoo bars more than any shampoo I ever used, but I do have short hair.

I was at the Minneapolis Farmer's Market on Saturday, and they of course had homemade soaps/lotions.

4.5 ounce bars of soap (all natural) were $6. The shampoo bars were $8, and the body butters were $11 for a tiny amount (didn't see the ounces).

Interestingly, the shampoo bars and soaps were almost exactly what I use although some had some coloring in them. But the body butters and lotions used "emulsifying wax" and preservatives which I do not use.

Today's new recipe is lip balm. You should have the ingredients from soap making, but if not, get them!

.25 ounces Beeswax
.33 ounces shea butter
.33 ounces cocoa butter
.40 ounces sweet almond oil
2 ml vitamin E (use a pin to prick some Vitamin E capsules)
5-8 drops peppermint essential oil.

Melt beeswax and cocoa butter in microwave, adding shea butter last (it can get grainy if it gets too hot) and stirring well. Add the sweet almond oil and then add some peppermint essential oil. This fills up about 6 old "carmex" containers. Just clean and sanitize some old lip balm pots, or I used an old film canister (remember "film"? ). You can cut in half/thirds/double/whatever.

The cool thing is that cocoa butter has a natural chocolate smell, and the peppermint EO makes a "coco-mint" aroma. Everybody loves this lip balm, including Bob.


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Old 09-11-2012, 02:25 AM   #52
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Just ordered my supplies. Looking forward to making some soap soon! I plan on using the recipe you outlined early in the thread (Olive, Palm, and Coconut). Thanks Yooper!


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good stuff Yoop, nice of you to take the time to add all this great info for the forum.

Re: the guy asking about shaving soap. I spent the better part of a year trying to perfect a shaving soap and never quite got it right. I'll revisit it at some point, but the really good soaps out there use part NaOH and part KOH... they also use tallow as one of their ingredients, but that is attainable if you are willing to do some extra work.

the trick is getting a stable lather that isn't too bubby, mine have always ended up too bubbly, even using up to 50% tallow, which is supposed to provide exactly the opposite.
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good stuff Yoop, nice of you to take the time to add all this great info for the forum.

Re: the guy asking about shaving soap. I spent the better part of a year trying to perfect a shaving soap and never quite got it right. I'll revisit it at some point, but the really good soaps out there use part NaOH and part KOH... they also use tallow as one of their ingredients, but that is attainable if you are willing to do some extra work.

the trick is getting a stable lather that isn't too bubby, mine have always ended up too bubbly, even using up to 50% tallow, which is supposed to provide exactly the opposite.
I haven't tried shaving soaps (don't know anybody who shaves!) but it's tricky.

Something I wanted to mention that sort of makes me laugh. I know that many many people make soaps and sell them. A great shaving soap and a great shampoo soap are closely guarded secret recipes, and on one of the soap forums I pop in on from time to time they talk about this. It takes much trial and error to perfect the perfect formula and they will NOT give recipes.

In contrast, all of my beer recipes, wine, soap, whatever, are all an open book. I didn't say they were good, of course, but they are available!

My oil order came today, so I just made up a small batch of shampoo bars after dinner. I LOVE this recipe, and it's probably worth something to somebody. I already gave this recipe to Conpewter when he told me he loved my shampoo bar sample I gave him, but here's my recipe for anybody who cares:

3 ounces castor oil
1.5 ounces jojoba oil
3 ounces olive oil (Pomace quality- this is important!) that had been infused with lavender and rosemary from my garden for a month)
2.25 ounces palm oil
4.5 ounces coconut oil
.75 ounce shea butter
Lye 1.955 ounces
water 5.7 ounces
(everything by weight, including water!)

Mix lye into water and set aside to cool.

Melt "hard" oils together at low heat, just until the shea butter melts. Stir in the other oils and let cool.

Mix together at 110-115 degrees until trace and then add the essential oils and mix well then pour into mold.

Essential oils: rosemary, lavender, and cedarwood at trace. Rosemary is good for hair and scalp, as is lavender, and cedarwood. I don't use much, so they don't really have a strong smell, and after aging barely any scent at all. That's how I like it. If you like a strong scent, use .5 ounce per pound of oil.


This takes about 6 weeks to really get great, and after 3 months is heavenly!

This is a very small batch- it fills the bottom of a bread loaf pain so you can cut it into small bars. You can double, triple, half, etc, the batch, but make sure you use a lye calculator if you do!

This is set at 8% superfat.

I do use this soap to shave my legs, but it's not a "shaving soap" that I've ever tried to use a brush with. Most shaving soaps have clay for slip, and extra stearic acid for hardness, as far as I know. This shampoo bar gives a cleansing bar, but conditioning as well, with bubbly and creamy lather.
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Something I wanted to mention that sort of makes me laugh. I know that many many people make soaps and sell them. A great shaving soap and a great shampoo soap are closely guarded secret recipes, and on one of the soap forums I pop in on from time to time they talk about this. It takes much trial and error to perfect the perfect formula and they will NOT give recipes.

In contrast, all of my beer recipes, wine, soap, whatever, are all an open book. I didn't say they were good, of course, but they are available!
i must be a member of the same forum...

it's kinda ridiculous... not like we're trying to compete with them for selling soap! just trying to further our own craft.
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will the soaps go bad? like dry out too much or is the air bad for them after a certain amount of time? and how would i go about storing large quantities of soap i make? i want to make a whole bunch and have soap for a year lol
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I've spent the last few weeks hip deep in soap making research, recipes, technique, blogs about soap. Side note: there are tons of blogs about soap making. Who knew?

On 8/31, I made my very first soap (Bastille Olive Oil), which is Not pictured (but smells great! Oats and Honey scent originally purchased for a candle), but it didn't gel, and it's slowly turning a really gross grey color (which was originally a gross orange color from liquid dye). But did I mention it smells great? If we don't like it, we can use it in laundry soap so we don't waste it.

Recipe:
680g Olive Oil
181g Coconut Oil
45g Castor Oil
124g Lye
345g H20
1 oz Oats Milk and Honey fragrance oil
Should be 5% superfat, but I didn't state that in my notes.

I'll let you know in October how it turned out, as it's still curing.



This wonderful swirley soap is my second attempt. It's scented with Bergamot fragrance, and it was supposed to be a deep pink and spring green, but the soap colorings at the craft store are horrible. I don't recommend them at all. Buying from a reputable online soap store is a much better idea.

Recipe with 5% superfat:
90g Shea butter (10%)
226g Coconut Oil (25%)
272g Olive Oil (30%)
90g Castor Oil (10%)
226g Lard (25%)
126g Lye
344g H2O
2 oz Bergamot fragrance

I was interested to see the difference between an all vegetable soap and one made with animal products (lard in the above recipe), so I made the exact same recipe as stated above, but replaced the Lard with Palm Oil. The batch was separated and half was colored pink, and one was colored blue. The light colored stuff on the far left soap is soda ash, and apparently you can spray on some 91% alcohol after pouring to prevent that from occurring.



It's still curing, but the batch made with lard was noticeabley harder right out of the mold. The cute butterflies were very soft after a week in the mold; I had to throw them in the freezer and pop them out like ice cubes. This may be the result of using a silicone mold, though. Perhaps a few more experiments are in order.

And This! This is soap made with Charcoal! My better half likes grey, and I thought it'd be cool to make a grey soap. We got some charcoal at the store (the aquarium filter type. It's grainy, so I threw it in the coffee grinder to make it fine).



Lemme stop here and say that if you have charcoal and a coffee grinder, throw the charcoal in the grinder and buzz away. The pitch black smoke that seeps from the lid is epic. Open the lid and it's like you're looking down into forever.

I was anticipating an all grey soap, so the freakin' awesome veins running thru it are totally a bonus. This is lightly scented with Blackberry Sage.

Recipe is:
272g Lard (30%)
362g Olive Oil (40%)
90g Castor Oil (10%)
191g Coconut Oil (20%)
3t charcoal (added to oils before trace)
121g Lye
344g H2O

That's what I have so far. We'll wait a few weeks to try out the first few batches, but I have big dreams of goats milk, honey, green tea, herbs, rosemary steeped in olive oil, the list goes on and on.

This is just as addictive as brewing. Now I ask myself 2 questions at the grocery store: Can I ferment that? If not, can I soap with that?
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Wow, that charcoal soap looks AWESOME. That would look amazing in a modern style bathroom or one with dark colored granite countertops.
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charcoal soap will be on my list for sure! that looks awesome, it would go perfect in a modern bathroom thats all granite, stainless steel and has soft indirect lighting. like i want haha. and im going to try to make shaving soaps soon as who uses shaving gel in a can? if you do then you dont know how to shave, you need a brush, soap, and a straight razor haha.
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I like the look of the charcoal soap a lot! I wonder, does it make white or gray lather?

I have a chocolate soap that is great (just used baker's chocolate in with the oils), but it has a tan/brownish lather that is sort of weird.


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