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Old 08-23-2012, 11:01 PM   #1
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Hi,

I'm sure this has been answered before, however I could not find a definitive answer using the search feature, so here goes...

My first lager was in the primary at 50 degrees for 12 days. I increased the temperature to 60 degrees on day 12 for a diacetyl rest, and plan on moving to secondary for lagering on day 14. My question is... is it OK to transfer to lager even though there is still quite a bit of airlock activity (which increased after raising the temperature)? Or should I leave it at the elevated temperature until activity stops/slows?

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Old 08-23-2012, 11:22 PM   #2
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I say you take off and do a hydrometer reading. It's the only way to be sure.

Okay, "Aliens" meme aside, the airlock activity may just be a result of gas escaping/expansion as the beer warms. You should check the reading. My diacetyl rests are usually at room temperature for 24-48 hours, and then lagering (but for much more than 14 days. What did you brew?)

 
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:38 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply. I thought about taking a reading, but was thinking with all the activity in the airlock I was still far from being done with fermentation. I didn't think about activity due to temperature change...

I'm brewing Jamil's Extra Yellow from Brewing Classic Styles. I was planning to primary for 2 weeks, then lager at 38 degrees for 4+ weeks.

 
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Old 08-24-2012, 04:32 PM   #4
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Ideally, you should be in primary until you reach 75% of expected FG.

For example, if OG is 1.05, expected FG is 1.01, you would start the diacetyl rest once gravity reached 1.02 (1.05-1.01=0.04............0.75*0.04=0.03............1.0 5-0.03=1.02).

A two-day diacytl rest then easily gets you to FG.

In your specific case, the airlock activity in secondary is probably a combination of the last few gravity points and just off-gassing due to the temperature bump. No big surprise, but DEFINITELY take a gravity reading and make sure you are at expected FG before you start lagering. You should expect it to take a good 48 hours to complete the diacytl rest and wax off the final few gravity points before you move to lagering.

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Old 08-24-2012, 06:45 PM   #5
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Just took a hydrometer reading... OG = 1.061, Current gravity = 1.020, Estimated FG = 1.013 So...

Looks like I started the DR too soon. Now my question is:

Do I leave at the elevated temperature until it's done (already at this temp for 48hrs) or do I drop the temperature back down to 50 degrees to finish fermentation?

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Old 08-24-2012, 07:04 PM   #6
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Just leave it in your DR rest until it's done, and you'll be fine!
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:07 PM   #7
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Just leave it in your DR rest until it's done, and you'll be fine!
Yep. Lowering the temp on the yeast at this point will probably slow them to a crawl if not make them completely settle out. I'm betting you'll get to FG in a day or two at the higher temp.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:54 PM   #8
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Thanks for the help. Took a hydrometer reading yesterday and I had finally reached FG, so I transferred to the secondary. Now my question refers to lagering. My initial thought was to lager in a keg under minimal pressure (disconnected from the CO2), however decided to lager in a carboy at the advice of the guy at the LHBS. However, now I'm concerned there is too much head space in my 3 gallon better bottle:
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Thanks for the help. Took a hydrometer reading yesterday and I had finally reached FG, so I transferred to the secondary. Now my question refers to lagering. My initial thought was to lager in a keg under minimal pressure (disconnected from the CO2), however decided to lager in a carboy at the advice of the guy at the LHBS. However, now I'm concerned there is too much head space in my 3 gallon better bottle:
When in doubt avoid another transfer. Its cold enough to not have to worry much about it.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:34 AM   #10
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Yep, there is WAY too much headspace in there! Keg it, put it under co2, and lager and you'll be golden.
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