Can I change this fizzy yellow beer recipe into a decent pale ale recipe? - Home Brew Forums
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Recipes/Ingredients > Can I change this fizzy yellow beer recipe into a decent pale ale recipe?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-20-2012, 11:13 PM   #1
msa8967
mickaweapon
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
msa8967's Avatar
Recipes 
 
May 2009
North Liberty, Iowa
Posts: 2,870
Liked 105 Times on 84 Posts



I have the grain already mixed for 10 gallons of fizzy yellow beer based on Yooper's recipe and mostly made of Vienna and Pilsner malt. My buddy wanted 10 gallons of a guzzler for an upcoming social event but now has changed his mind and wants an american pale ale style brew instead. Is there anything I can do with altering the hops and grain below to turn this into a decent pale ale?

Grains
13 lbs Vienna
6 lbs Pilsen
12 oz Flaked Wheat
10 oz Carapils

Previous Hops
1 oz perle at 60 min (14 IBU)
1.25 oz tettnang at 60 min (10 IBU)
1.25 oz tettnang at 15 min (5 IBU)
1.5 oz tettnang at 5 min (2.5 IBU)
1.0 oz tettnang at flame out

Yeast
US-05

I have thought about replacing the perle with simcoe and then replacing the tettnang with centennial and cascade but I have not used Vienna and Pislen malt before in making a pale ale since there is pale malt for this style. I really wish I had not assembled all of this grain mixed so I could separate it back into its primary components.

Thanks for any ideas and suggestions you might have.


__________________
Mick Arnett
North Liberty, Iowa
"Beer will change the world. I don't know how, but it will."

 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2012, 12:39 AM   #2
SouthBay
Recipes 
 
Dec 2010
Olympia, WA
Posts: 465
Liked 23 Times on 21 Posts


Yeah just swap out the hops. Hit it with centennial or another bittering hop at 60, and cascade, and or centennial and or simcoe at 15/5/0.

Maybe mash at 150


__________________
we blessed your skin
we blessed you with our mark
become a part of the klok
become a gear

 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2012, 12:58 AM   #3
msa8967
mickaweapon
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
msa8967's Avatar
Recipes 
 
May 2009
North Liberty, Iowa
Posts: 2,870
Liked 105 Times on 84 Posts


What about trying to change this into an amber ale since Vienna has a sweeter malt taste than pale malt or 2-row? I can always make a pale ales from other malts and use this for an amber. I have plenty of fizzy yellow beers brewed at the moment.

Thanks for the reply.
__________________
Mick Arnett
North Liberty, Iowa
"Beer will change the world. I don't know how, but it will."

scinerd3000 Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2012, 02:11 AM   #4
SouthBay
Recipes 
 
Dec 2010
Olympia, WA
Posts: 465
Liked 23 Times on 21 Posts


yeah, that works too. You could either add a touch of roasted malts for some darker color (roast barley has some strong flavors, but will redden it up a bit), or some caramel 60 or 80 to add color and more sweetness. if you go the amber route, i'd mash higher, 152-154.

If you go amber, you'll probably want to change the hops too, depending on what type of profile you're going for. just use hops that fit with the nationality you're looking for: american, or english, or german.
__________________
we blessed your skin
we blessed you with our mark
become a part of the klok
become a gear

 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2012, 02:22 AM   #5
chiteface
Recipes 
 
Apr 2011
Saugatuck, MI
Posts: 248
Liked 12 Times on 11 Posts


Or make a hoppy amber...I like your hop combo. I guess I would use a lower yeast count and try to go for that sweeter beer set against those aforementioned wonderful hops.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2012, 02:40 AM   #6
SouthBay
Recipes 
 
Dec 2010
Olympia, WA
Posts: 465
Liked 23 Times on 21 Posts


Can you lager? the original recipe might be pretty solid done as a lager with something like Saflager 34/70

and, i forgot to mention earlier: i wouldnt use the simcoe to bitter; simcoe's main properties seem to be best utilized as flavor and aroma.
__________________
we blessed your skin
we blessed you with our mark
become a part of the klok
become a gear

 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2012, 09:43 AM   #7
chiteface
Recipes 
 
Apr 2011
Saugatuck, MI
Posts: 248
Liked 12 Times on 11 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthBay

and, i forgot to mention earlier: i wouldnt use the simcoe to bitter; simcoe's main properties seem to be best utilized as flavor and aroma.
Second. I would go with something "neutral". Like Columbus...or maybe Nugget.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 07:34 PM   #8
msa8967
mickaweapon
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
msa8967's Avatar
Recipes 
 
May 2009
North Liberty, Iowa
Posts: 2,870
Liked 105 Times on 84 Posts


So thinking along the amber styles I would like to hear anyone's opinion on this recipe.

10 Gallons of untitled beer

13 lbs Vienna
6 lbs Pilsen
2 lbs Munich
1 lb Amber malt
1 lb Crystal 60
1 lb Crystal 80
12 oz Flaked Wheat
10 oz Carapils

1 oz Centennial (FWH) 60 minutes
0.5 oz Centennial 60 minutes
2 oz Liberty 30 minutes
2 oz Crystal 1 minute

Either US-05 or Nottingham yeast

mash at 152 for 60 minutes.
OG 1.064 IBU 38


any thoughts?
__________________
Mick Arnett
North Liberty, Iowa
"Beer will change the world. I don't know how, but it will."

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 09:28 PM   #9
msa8967
mickaweapon
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
msa8967's Avatar
Recipes 
 
May 2009
North Liberty, Iowa
Posts: 2,870
Liked 105 Times on 84 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthBay View Post
yeah, that works too. You could either add a touch of roasted malts for some darker color (roast barley has some strong flavors, but will redden it up a bit), .
I have very little experience using roasted barely so would ypu suggest 2 oz or 4 oz for a 10 gallon size batch? I know many brewers will say use as much as you like but not having much experience with it I am not sure of what is the best amount.
__________________
Mick Arnett
North Liberty, Iowa
"Beer will change the world. I don't know how, but it will."

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 11:44 PM   #10
Beezer94
Recipes 
 
Feb 2009
Harmony, PA
Posts: 644
Liked 29 Times on 26 Posts


Vienna makes a great base malt so I would just stick to original recipe for grains. Just use the mix of centennial and cascade instead of the tett IMHO. It might not fit the exact mold of a APA (because Vienna is a flavorful malt), but will make for a good brew.


__________________
RDWHAHB
Add more hops! Always add more hops

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
left over yellow fizzy water Kampo Recipes/Ingredients 3 07-03-2012 05:03 PM
Another Fizzy Yellow Beer acidrain23 Recipes/Ingredients 22 05-24-2012 08:48 PM
Fizzy Yellow Beer Yooper Recipes/Ingredients 11 07-27-2011 10:18 PM
Fizzy yellow beer ingredients compared to real beer chione Recipes/Ingredients 34 05-14-2009 08:15 PM
Any chance this recipe will create a decent beer? shaundesjardins Recipes/Ingredients 1 01-11-2009 02:43 AM


Forum Jump