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Old 08-26-2012, 03:09 PM   #11
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I use a vacuum sealer. Usually it won't reveal the oxygen barrier bags, so I just put the remainder of the foil bag into a larger vacuum bag and seal it all up. Works like a charm!
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Old 08-27-2012, 04:56 AM   #12
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What about those of us without vacuum sealing capabilities? Just brewed today. Ended up rolling up the foil bags and putting them in freezer bags, then pushing out as much air as I could. Will this work long term?

 
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:17 AM   #13
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What about those of us without vacuum sealing capabilities? Just brewed today. Ended up rolling up the foil bags and putting them in freezer bags, then pushing out as much air as I could. Will this work long term?
Not long term, really. But, it should keep until your next brew day, assuming you're not waiting for months to brew again. Keep them frozen. Also, if you have CO2, that can help you get the oxygen out of the bags.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:51 PM   #14
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What about those of us without vacuum sealing capabilities? Just brewed today. Ended up rolling up the foil bags and putting them in freezer bags, then pushing out as much air as I could. Will this work long term?
I'm in the same boat as you. What I've done is roll up the foil as well as I can, then put it in a freezer bag with the air squeezed out. Then I put that in another freezer bag. It's not ideal, but I expect it will do well enough for my needs. It's been ok over a few months so far.

If not for the longer term, well, I can buy a lot of hops in smaller increments before an investment in a vacuum sealer would pay off for me. I don't have any other uses for it.

 
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:13 PM   #15
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About the only time I have parts of hop pouches left is when I'm saving the remainders for dry hopping the batch they were used in. I fold ofer the open end,then use packing tape to seal it up,squeezing out as much air as I can. Then into a zip lock freezer bag with the air squeezed out of it. Then into the large zip lock freezer bag(s) I keep on the top shelf of the freezer. Works well.
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Old 09-01-2012, 01:08 AM   #16
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Per BeerSmith (Hop Age function):

Citra hops (25% HSI), 12% AA

Stored vacuum packed in freezer for 1 year would end up at 11.41% AA (or a 5% reduction of alph acids).

Stored in plastic bag in freezer for 1 year would end up at 10.85% AA (or a 10% reduction of alpha acids)


Vacuum packaging is better (half the loss of the plastic bag), but it is the cold temperature that is the key. There is no real problem storing them if you don't have a vacuum sealer.

I usually break my orders down to 6 ozs packages that I vacuum pack. The opened pack gets sealed using the re-usable zip-lock vacuum bags (with the little hand pump) .... it's way easier than pulling out the big vacuum sealer.



HSI = Hop stability Index, or the amount of AAs the hops would loose if left in the open at 70 F for 6 months.

 
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Old 09-01-2012, 04:24 AM   #17
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HSI = Hop stability Index, or the amount of AAs the hops would loose if left in the open at 70 F for 6 months.
Interesting. Is the 25% number you quoted for citra typical among hops?

That's very encouraging, actually.

 
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Old 09-01-2012, 04:29 AM   #18
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Interesting. Is the 25% number you quoted for citra typical among hops?
The HSI number varies with the hop, and generally ranges from 15% (for something like Cluster) to 50% (for something like Cascade). Most are probably in the range of 25% to 40%.

 
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Old 09-01-2012, 05:39 AM   #19
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What about those of us without vacuum sealing capabilities? Just brewed today. Ended up rolling up the foil bags and putting them in freezer bags, then pushing out as much air as I could. Will this work long term?
I believe you can use an iron to reseal those bags. There won't be a vacuum, but it'll still limit oxygen exposure.

 
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I've also used a trick I learned from my mother. Stick a straw in the zip lock bag ?& zip it up to the straw. Then suck out all the air & zip shut while pulling out the straw. Works even better.
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