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Old 12-08-2005, 02:55 AM   #11
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too expensive....like a barleywine on crack is more like it.

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Old 12-08-2005, 04:39 AM   #12
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I started a thread on this a while back. It seems like all of their beers have gone downhill lately. Not to say that I don't appreciate what they've done for the microbrew industry in the US. At least Anchor Steam and Sierra Nevada are still good, even though their both dang twist off's now.

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Old 12-08-2005, 09:22 PM   #13
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I found a great store in Jersey, got to talking with the owner for a while and he let my fiance and I sample a bottle of 2003 Utopia. I was amazed at how smooth it was. Zero carbonation. Nice caramel flavor. Very nice. Price tag at 135$ is too high though...
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Old 12-08-2005, 09:28 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by homebrewer_99
The bean counters in accounting always ruin a good thing.

You're giving away the bottom line, man!!!
Amen Brother! Money, money, money...PAH, I say Beer, beer, beer!
Beer....the Duke of all Beverages.
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Old 12-08-2005, 09:32 PM   #15
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I tried the Winter Lager and was very disapointed. From what I had read here about spiced beers I was expecting something bigger and tastier, this was just plain, not bad but no zing. I love their Black Lagers though. Had my first one this year so I don't know what they were like before but I liked this years enough to copy it in a brew I did myself. Plan on making this one a regular when I get my keg fridge done.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:48 PM   #16
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That utopia may be fortified, I have heard.

Also, I recently bought their holiday variety pack.

Not impressed. The boston ale and lager, and black lager, are good, but the rest are kind of odd. Old Fezziwig isn't bad for a spiced holiday beer, but it's still so-so. The cranberry lambic was my first lambic. I poured half of it down the drain. The holiday porter has an "off-taste", like it was fermented too warm. I didn't like the winter lager at all.

I also must throw my hat in for their cream stout.

One of those black lagers made an excellent marinade base for these beautiful london broils I grilled last saturday...
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Old 12-16-2005, 03:52 PM   #17
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Well, it is the American dream. I don't really begrudge anybody "selling out" or what have you as I wouldn't mind being obscenely wealthy someday. Perhaps there's a compromise...get filthy stinkin' rich off of SA and then operate a microbrewery for the hell of it.

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