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Old 08-14-2012, 07:06 PM   #1
SchmidtyBeer
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I am finishing up the wiring for a Brutus type system, but am having problems getting the PIDs to fire the burners. I have two Auber syl-2362 PIDs hooked up to two honeywell vr8200 valves. Everything is controlled by a three way selector switch (hand/off/auto). The burners work great with the hand selection, but not at all through the PID. I have the valves wired through the J2 output (13 and 14) going to a 24v bridge, then out to the burners. Do the PIDs send out 24v, or do I need to supply that power through the transformer? does this all sound like a wiring issue or a programming issue?

Sorry for my electrical ignorance!!

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Chris

 
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:00 PM   #2
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Definitely a wiring issue. Think of your pid as a simple switch. You should have the 24v leg of your transformer run to pin 13 and it should come out on pin 14. Pin 14 should be connected to one pin on the valve. As the pid operates, it opens and closes allowing the 24v from the transformer to pass to the valve. Post your wiring schematic if you have any trouble following what I wrote, and we can go from there.

 
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Old 08-15-2012, 04:26 PM   #3
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That makes perfect sense. I will rewire it tonight and post the results. Thanks!

 
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:34 PM   #4
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Actually let me rephrase that. 24 volts should run directly to your manual automatic off switch. The manual side of the switch runs directly to the valve. The automatic side of the switch runs to pin 13, and pin 14 runs to the valve.

 
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:46 AM   #5
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It's alive! I redirected one wire and it works perfect. Thanks a bunch!

 
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:48 PM   #6
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Anytime, hope the first brew is a good one!

 
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:12 PM   #7
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Glad you posted this, I had the same question.

Lewdog, are you saying that the pid is switching the neutral leg of the 24v circuit? Anyway you could post a schematic?

Edit: the auber manual shows pins 7 and 8 switching the gas valve

 
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Old 08-17-2012, 01:47 PM   #8
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wncbrewer, i am using an auber syl-2362 pid and a honeywell valve with a rtd style temp probe. Your pid model design could be different, so please refer to your pid manual. I am switching the hot 24vac leg of my transformer. I am using the J2 outputs on my PID to switch the 24vac on and off during automatic control. I am currently @ work and had to manually draw out a quick schematic of my wiring. I AM NOT A LICENSED ELECTRICIAN, please take my design with a grain of salt Your transformer may be designed differently. OK, disclaimer over on with the schematic.

Reason: added info

 
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Old 08-17-2012, 01:51 PM   #9
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sorry for the image size, i have no way of editing it right now

 
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Old 08-17-2012, 02:18 PM   #10
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I like this set up, are you using a thermocouple with the pilot to shut off the valve if the pilot blows out?

 
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