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Old 08-11-2012, 04:51 AM   #1
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I had planned to get back into brewing 5 years ago and stocked up on hops and yeast. But, my motivation fizzled out and I only did one batch. So, I still have an assortment of dry yeast packages and pellet hops that I kept in the freezer all this time. Would I be making a mistake by trying to use either the hops or the yeast? I just hate to waste anything.

 
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:02 AM   #2
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Chances are good that your dry yeast is still useable. Other people here have used old yeast with no problem although you may still want to get some new yeast just as a backup. Your hops on the other hand are most likely junk and unlike old yeast, old hops will ruin a whole batch. Just my 2 cents. Good luck

 
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:06 AM   #3
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I think 5 years would be pushing it. Do you want a chance of ruining a batch to save a few dollars worth of yeast and hops?
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:07 AM   #4
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You could make a starter with the yeast to see if it is still any good,if not toss some of it in the last 5 minutes of the boil.

 
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:58 PM   #5
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The hops might also be a reason for concern.
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:10 PM   #6
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The hops might also be a reason for concern.
You may be able to sell them as "aged hops" to a lambic brewer.

 
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:22 PM   #7
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The yeast is questionable... i would make a starter. I tried to use 2 year old hops and the flavor and aroma was just not there. I would chalk them up to a loss and move on with some fresh hops.

 
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:17 AM   #8
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If kept undisturbed in the freezer for 5 years, both the hops and yeast will be OK.

Use about 2 to 3 times the amount of hops you might normally use as they will have lost a lot of their oils. Pellets will keep better than leaf. You can find calculators that will estimate the oil loss.

In a fridge, dry yeast looses about 4% viability a year. In a freezer, it will be less than that.

If you want a lot of hop aroma, you probably want to get some fresh finishing hops.

 
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:31 AM   #9
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mr. malty puts dry yeast at 2+ years old at 50% viability.

 
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:42 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BradleyBrew View Post
mr. malty puts dry yeast at 2+ years old at 50% viability.
And it says that yeast slurry is only 10% viable after 2 months. I've had no problems straight pitching slurry after 6 months (not what I would normally do).

Mr. Malty is not the bible, and is generally way wrong in yeast viability calculations.


However, to counter your comment; in 'Yeast', (written by Jamil, who also put together the Mr. Malty calculator), page 160, shelf life of dry yeast, "Stored under typical refrigeration temperatures of 38 F it only loses about 4% of its viability per year"

 
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