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Old 08-02-2012, 12:58 AM   #1
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Has anybody made Stout Ice Cream?

Just put together my 2nd batch. I have a Rival home ice cream machine that uses ice and salt around the container and an electric motor assembly that fits on the top to churn the mix.

I have made other ice cream in this machine (no beer in the recipe) and it comes out like a frozen custard. However, I can not get the stout recipe to set up like custard in the machine. I have to take it out of the container and put it in the freezer for 24-48 hours to get it to set up.

Might anybody have an idea as to how to get the ice/salt mixture cold enough to freeze the mixture? I am guessing that the alcohol from the stout lowers the freezing point of the mixture below what is achievable with the ice/salt.

 
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:00 AM   #2
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Wonder how it would be if you used some reserved wort for the ice cream instead of finished beer...
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Wonder how it would be if you used some reserved wort for the ice cream instead of finished beer...
that would be awesome for ice cream
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:10 AM   #4
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Was just thinking that if you used unfermented wort for the ice cream, you'd still have some sweetness from the wort in it. Plus the grains and such, just not the yeast, flavors. All good stuff too.

I might be looking to get an ice cream machine post move. IF I do, I think I'll have to give this a try. Might try it with my mocha porter recipe, and then put it over a fudge brownie.

Of course, there has to be a way to get it to set when using finished beer... Well, without taking over two days that is.
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:30 AM   #5
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...However, I can not get the stout recipe to set up like custard in the machine. I have to take it out of the container and put it in the freezer for 24-48 hours to get it to set up.

Might anybody have an idea as to how to get the ice/salt mixture cold enough to freeze the mixture? I am guessing that the alcohol from the stout lowers the freezing point of the mixture below what is achievable with the ice/salt.
With the added alcohol the freezing temp will definitely be lower. I think giving more time like you are doing is your easiest option. Ice/Salt mix will get well below freezing, but it probably needs more time (and maybe more thermal energy from the freezer) to over come the effect of the alcohol.

I have not tried to make Stout ice cream (great idea though!), but here is what I think might work out better: Mix some wort, rather than finished beer into the ice cream recipe to get the taste you want.

 
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:37 AM   #6
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Many years ago Kolher WI did Ice cream Stouts, They also did Stout floats sounded bad to me as don't care for alot of sweets when drinking. Ice Cream was to sweet for me ends up more like coffee ice cream, the float was just awesome. Make a good vanilla with bean and add scoop to the top of stout.
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Of course, there has to be a way to get it to set when using finished beer... Well, without taking over two days that is.
hold it at 190 for a for a time until the alcohol boils out? maybe a little caramelization wouldn't hert either you think adding the sugar the recipe calls for or the mix comes with would bring out the malts? love me some roasty malts! keeping the bitterness would be awesome too
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hold it at 190 for a for a time until the alcohol boils out? maybe a little caramelization wouldn't hert either you think adding the sugar the recipe calls for or the mix comes with would bring out the malts? love me some roasty malts! keeping the bitterness would be awesome too
Maybe use both some finished/fermented beer as well as some reserved wort? You'll get the malty sweetness from the reserved wort, but the flavors the yeast adds, as well as what comes from fermenting, with the finished beer.

I suspect I'll be getting an ice cream maker soon after moving into my new place (expect to have it locked in before the end of the week, early next at the outside). Might give it a shot with some of my mocha porter to see how that translates. At 9% ABV, if I don't cook off the alcohol, it will have a little kick to it.
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Oh, my, that sounds so good. And I don't even like ice cream.

I think putting it in the freezer for 24 hours to set up more may be the simplest way to go- I think it's the alcohol that won't allow it to freeze solid in the ice cream freezer.
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:19 PM   #10
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What's the ice cream recipe? Adding non-dairy liquids to ice cream recipes can throw things off, too.
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