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Old 07-31-2012, 05:35 PM   #1
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Planning on making a SMaSH using Vienna Malt and Pacific gem hops. Thinking that the reported woody bitterness and blackberry/currant notes would be nice in a SMaSH. Anyone have any experience with Pacific Gem?

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Old 07-31-2012, 05:42 PM   #2
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I haven't used them exclusively in beer, but I did bitter with them followed up with Nelson Sauvin hops (aroma/flavor) for a New Zealand pale ale. I wasn't a fan of Pacific Gem for bittering, I felt that it gave it some odd undertones that were absent when I brewed the same beer with Magnum for bittering. After that, I stopped using them, so I can't provide anything constructive for flavor/aroma properties.


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Old 09-27-2012, 12:19 AM   #3
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Did you do it?

I'll be making a (T)MaSH in November, using 2 row and malted wheat. Planning on using the PG at 20 minutes only. The idea is to get the best of all 3 worlds and really capture that blackberry escence.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:32 AM   #4
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i had a SMaSH munich and pacific gem homebrew, in which the brewer also did a bunch of kettle carmelization...OMG! I am doing this beer next! Soooo good, wasn't a hop bomb, but very subtle, and delicious......
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:33 PM   #5
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PacGem is probably my least favorite hop. I've had two SMaSH beers with it, and they were both unpleasant to the point of being undrinkable. I can see it being used as an accent hop, maybe to increase the tannic character of Nelson Sauvin, but not as the feature or even sole hop in a beer. Containing up to 40% (!) cohumulone, I'd definitely not use it for bittering.
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I've got a big load of NZ hops from midwest,& was going to use the PG as flavor/aroma hops at 20 minutes. Or even 10 minutes with another hop. I def think flavor/aroma additions with this one. I thought the berry thing sounded good too. It'll be going into a pale ale.
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I use it in a double IPA that I like a lot. I use to be able to find it in bulk (1 lb at a time) but I have a hard time just fining it at all now. I think the last place I got it was at Farmhouse. Anybody know a good source?
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Got mine from Rebel Brewer
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I Did it! and it is fantastic... probably the best beer I have made so far... 45IBU makes it hoppy, but not very bitter...Subtle oak barrel dry bitterness with a pronounces berry note atthe finish and very crisp... Will be brewing this again!
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What was your hop schedule?


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