Saving a flop - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Extract Brewing > Saving a flop

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-28-2012, 02:50 AM   #1
Eisendrath
Recipes 
 
Mar 2010
USA, CT
Posts: 186
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts



When I first started homebrewing I took a lot of shortcuts. I ended up with some syrupy brews, meaning that I used too much LME for a 5 gallons batch and the yeast died from alcohol level tolerance before it coul digest all the LME. The beer was drinkable but really tasted a lot like the LME syrup. Today things are different but I have probably three batches that are going undrunk, passed by by much better beer. I'd like to not throw these away. Any thoughts on saving the batches? Right now two batches are in bottles, one overcarbed, one flat, and one batch is in a keg with about 12psi CO2. I was thinking I'd dump them one at a time into a 6 gallon carboy add water to dilute the Alcohol and add new yeast. I have no idea how much water to add, what the alcohol level currently is, but I do know that they each saw two cans of LME.

Thoughts?


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2012, 03:00 AM   #2
lumpher
Recipes 
 
Jul 2009
texas
Posts: 5,064
Liked 265 Times on 226 Posts


get adventurous. add wine yeast, and see how it tastes. the wine yeast will ferment the sugar without adding any taste, really, but will add abv
__________________
There is no "i" in denial.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2012, 10:35 PM   #3
Eisendrath
Recipes 
 
Mar 2010
USA, CT
Posts: 186
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts


I've been down the wine yeast road, even champagne yeast a few times, intentionally, making barleywine. Never did it on a stopped ferment. Would I just start the wine yeast and dump it in?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2012, 01:30 AM   #4
amandabab
Recipes 
 
Mar 2012
spokane, wa
Posts: 1,971
Liked 241 Times on 183 Posts


2 cans of LME is 6.6 lbs. this is not too much in 5 gallons to kill ale yeast from alcohol.
they are probably syrup like from too many unfermentable sugars and wine yeast won't help without simple sugar additions.

sugar or extra-light DME and new ale ale yeast would be best if your going to try to save it

 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2012, 03:48 AM   #5
Calder
Recipes 
 
Mar 2010
Ohio
Posts: 7,589
Liked 623 Times on 546 Posts


DON'T USE WINE YEAST!

Wine yeast is a killer yeast and only ferments simple sugars. Once added, it is difficult to get an ale yeast working again. An ale yeast will ferment your beer further than any wine yeast.

2 cans of LME doesn't seem to be too much, unless they were 1 gallon batches.

If you have undrinkable beer in bottles, I would suggest you pour them (carefully) on to an existing yeast cake. Next time you bottle a beer, pour these beers onto the cake and see what happens.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2012, 01:18 AM   #6
ChessRockwell
Recipes 
 
Jan 2012
Canton, ME
Posts: 558
Liked 30 Times on 27 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by amandabab View Post
2 cans of LME is 6.6 lbs. this is not too much in 5 gallons to kill ale yeast from alcohol.
they are probably syrup like from too many unfermentable sugars and wine yeast won't help without simple sugar additions
+1 yeah, that's pretty much what i was thinking!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2012, 08:19 PM   #7
unionrdr
Heavyweight homebrewing author
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
unionrdr's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2011
Sheffield, Ohio
Posts: 38,910
Liked 3673 Times on 3157 Posts


I was thinking along the same lines. My Burton ale used 2 different cooper's cans,with 3lb of Munton's plain light DME. I did,however,re-hydrate 4 7g packets of cooper's ale yeast to pitch on it. Looking back at Barclay Perkis page,underpitching at 3 7g packets would've been better to get that sweetness Burton's are known for. How much yeast did you use & what was the OG?
__________________
NEW books on amazon/Kindle! Check it out now...
Home Brewing- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PBAP6JO
Distopian Sci-Fi- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NTA0L6G
New! John Henry- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GBV3UXU

 
Reply With Quote


Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Saving a little extract- 1st time brew WiscoCK Extract Brewing 9 02-24-2012 10:59 PM
Saving Extract Pash91 Extract Brewing 10 12-15-2009 03:22 AM


Forum Jump