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Old 07-26-2012, 04:06 AM   #11
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Can't understand what's advanced about $10 for some flaked maize and generic hops.

 
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:28 AM   #12
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I think there are advantages on both sides of the purchase: you save about half the cost of the base malt, but they are charging you a lot for what remains. I can see the specialty grains at about $2-3 and the hops another $3-4 (retail prices) depending on the recipe. I guess consider the remaining $4-6 a convenience charge for putting those specific items together and you not having to fret your pretty little head. However, if you're already buying bulk grains, you're likely buying bulk hops and possibly growing a yeast bank too. In which case all you need is the recipe to do the kit yourself for < 50% the cost. But then you're also not their target market. Just sayin...

 
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:28 AM   #13
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Can't understand what's advanced about $10 for some flaked maize and generic hops.
Yeah, I don't get it. The "advanced" part, or the price. *shrug*

 
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:17 PM   #14
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"Advanced" means homebrewers who've advanced to bulk 2-row purchases.
If you all are buying that much 2-row, then you might very well be buying more than one advanced kit.
The shipping price gets divided by each additional kit.

I expect that AHS will be rolling out advanced options for all their AHS designed kits.
Theoretically, they could/should do it for all their clone kits too.

Eventually they could include the advance into their regular kit options:
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:27 PM   #15
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Advanced usually refers to the need for all grain equipment and knowledge.

I have been buying in bulk and making my own recipes. If I was to want to do a particular beer, and not source the individual ingredients, I might go for one.

 
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:48 PM   #16
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"Advanced" means homebrewers who've advanced to bulk 2-row purchases.
If you all are buying that much 2-row, then you might very well be buying more than one advanced kit.
The shipping price gets divided by each additional kit.
Sooo advanced enough to buy bulk grain but still need really basic kits?

 
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Old 07-26-2012, 05:25 PM   #17
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Sooo advanced enough to buy bulk grain but still need really basic kits?
How are their kits basic?
I look at it like this my closest HBS is 2.5 hours away were I can get base grain for. 85Ę. Then for my special grains I will built my kits online. With a recipe like thier stout were there are alot of diffrent ingredients it would be easier and about the same price to order thier advance kit and 10.00 cheaper then ordering the regular kit. So for me it would be a good deal.

 
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Old 07-26-2012, 05:41 PM   #18
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This seems like an idea where YMMV is the key factor. For those of us with a LHBS that is 5 minutes away, where we can obtain specialty grains for roughly $2/lb and hops for roughly $2/oz (not bulk prices), this probably isn't a great deal. For those who would be spending $30 in gas to drive to the "L"HBS I think this could work out well.

 
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:26 PM   #19
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How are their kits basic?
I look at it like this my closest HBS is 2.5 hours away were I can get base grain for. 85Ę. Then for my special grains I will built my kits online. With a recipe like thier stout were there are alot of diffrent ingredients it would be easier and about the same price to order thier advance kit and 10.00 cheaper then ordering the regular kit. So for me it would be a good deal.
But there is most likely a premium built into the kit price, which means you're basically just paying a premium for their recipe. If you are going to order specialty grains and hops online, why not just build the recipes yourself and cut out the premium? It's not like these are super-secret recipes or beers you can't find recipes for online.

 
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I don't believe AHS adds a premium into their kit prices. They don't prepackage anything, just pull the ingredients when orders come in. Their kits seem to be enticements to use their service. I found them when googling for a Redhook Double Black Stout recipe. Plus AHS seems to be beer geeks that enjoy coming up with the kits.
I suspect the Advanced option is to facilitate customer requests.
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