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Old 07-17-2012, 07:30 AM   #1
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Can anyone build me a system? I have money and want to get started.

I want something super simple. Pretty much a pot between element. But I am open to suggestions and such.

Thanks guys.

Mel

 
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:41 PM   #2
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You want one pot, one element, and one pid? Super simple to do! Tell us a little more, pumps? Lights? Estop?

 
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Old 07-17-2012, 10:43 PM   #3
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Basically yes. I dont even care about the PID. A pot is all I really need. I dont mind looking at thermometers and such. I also dont care about lights. On the high gravity website they have what I am talking about and charge 250 dollars for it. I think that that is way steep for something so simple.

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Old 07-17-2012, 10:44 PM   #4
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Oh, I will be running a March pump. I can just run that from a switch on the brew stand. I plan on doing a herms to controll mash temp as well.

 
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:17 PM   #5
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If you are adding a herms you are going to want a PID to control the HLT water temps.

 
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:35 PM   #6
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Here
http://www.stilldragon.com/basic-controller.html
and
Here
http://www.stilldragon.com/element-g...-adapters.html

The cheapest and easiest that I have found online.

 
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:39 PM   #7
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If you are adding a herms you are going to want a PID to control the HLT water temps.
That's the thing. It's more than a pot with an off/on switch and an element if you want to do HERMS or anything else. You'll need a PID for that. And if you're doing a PID, you might as well do a PWM for the BK because your probably don't want/need a 100% power always on or always off element depending on the size of the element.

A control panel is really nice. Mine isn't automated at all, but GFCI is required and then having a switch or two for the pumps and a PID for the HLT is handy.
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:41 PM   #8
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True, but if he is like me, automation doesn't matter much since I am pacing around sipping on beer as I brew. I watch the temps and turn the knob as required, much like I did when I had a flame under the kettle.
Old habits die hard I guess. I'm too old to be retrained anyways. I did have an Auber PID, but sold it to another guy wanting to build an ekettle.

 
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:46 PM   #9
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True, but if he is like me, automation doesn't matter much since I am pacing around sipping on beer as I brew. I watch the temps and turn the knob as required, much like I did when I had a flame under the kettle.
Old habits die hard I guess. I'm too old to be retrained anyways. I did have an Auber PID, but sold it to another guy wanting to build an ekettle.
Yes, but you need the "knob" to turn!

I have a PWM (a knob) for the BK but I love the PID for the HLT for the HERMS. With an HLT, you could use a Johnson Controller and set it for the desired temperature and not need a PID for it. That's what I did in my first electric build, and it worked fine. But because with a HERMS, you need a set temperature (and not "boiling" or "not boiling" like with a BK), some way to maintain the temperature is required.
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:49 PM   #10
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Yoop,
Did you see the contoller I linked to? It has a knob.

If I have to step mash I use my decoction kettle, so that minimizes some of my drinking...

 
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