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Old 07-17-2012, 01:27 AM   #11
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Short answer no
Could you "start" towards one yes but you will quickly need a lot more capital.

Having a property in Oregon zoned right and isn't connect to a house will cut down costs. Starting the company is $100 depending what you form. You could get a system for under 10k but then everything else needed to be successful would pass 10k pretty quick. Despite the 250k being the normal. You could do it for under 100k and depending on how quickly you realize you want to transition from nano, add anywhere from 50k - 100k more for the upgrade.


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Old 07-17-2012, 01:39 AM   #12
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I'd like to start off by maybe just trying to get a few of my kegs into local pubs. I was thinking about adapting my 3 car garage that is extremely clean into where I brew. I have no plans to get a separate building if I can find a way around it. I just want to start very small and simple. Maybe if things pick up and my brews are well received I'd like to do something like Captured by Porches, which is a brewery food cart here in PDX. http://capturedbyporches.com/



 
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:49 AM   #13
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"A 3 or 4 barrel microbrewery (wholesale production) is doomed to either fail, or enslave its operator with interminable hours and little compensation until he can upgrade his equipment to a large enough system to become profitable on. In many instances the venture self destructs and visits financial ruin upon the owner."

Not looking good.

 
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:54 AM   #14
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$250,000 seems to be a minimum number that gets thrown around here to start a brewery.

Can you clarify what you mean by home brewery?
I was just thinking about kegging and hustling my brews to local pubs. Just a really small operation. From what I've been reading here this might not even be profitable.

 
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:56 AM   #15
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In Oregon, he can do it in his basement. He'll just have to give TTB/OLCC 24 hour access to it.
Interesting.... I don't know if that's a worthwhile tradeoff or not, but interesting option!
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:01 AM   #16
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Check out Below Grade Brewing in Bend. The guy started amazingly small, brews in his basement, and sold all his initial beers at local farmer's markets with $15 day permits from the OLCC. You'll probably have to keep the day job, but you can start small. I don't think he even has a website yet, he was still just using his facebook page last time I searched for a site. (ok, still no site)

According to this, he had to only allow access to the basement brewery from an outside door. So, there might be some additional home improvements involved.

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Old 07-17-2012, 02:12 AM   #17
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I think it ultimately comes down to what your goals are for having a brewery. Do you want a career change or just take brewing to another level. This article deals with "nano" winemakers but I think it has a lot of relevance for us brewers.http://ventanamonthly.com/article.ph...68&IssueNum=74 I think they are on the right track!! They are starting small vineyards not to make money but rather because they love it!! Some readily admit that they will never be profitable and they are ok with that. I see operating a nanobrewery the same way..if you aren't doing it out of love why are you doing it at all?
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:18 AM   #18
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According to this, he had to only allow access to the basement brewery from an outside door. So, there might be some additional home improvements involved.
Ah, so that might be the key to the basement thing. Its in the same building, but is essentially completely isolated from the residence.
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:15 AM   #19
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Ah, so that might be the key to the basement thing. Its in the same building, but is essentially completely isolated from the residence.
That's how New Belgium started, at least according to the brewery tour.

 
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:13 AM   #20
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Subd I'm looking into it also but in ny. I found a building for $10,000 rent for the yr ($833 mo). I figured start with either 1bbl or if I can get money 3.5 bbl. Brew like 5-7 times a week. If its 1bbl n I sell 750ml bottles . U get about 165 bottles from 1bbl. Most places sell that size beer around here from $7-10 ea. So let's say I sell for $5 ea. 165 x $5. $825 for that 1bbl batch. Minus cost. I would say around $325 at most. So a profit of around $500x5(times a week) is $2500 week x4 weeks is $10,000 mo. I'm sure u can still make a decent profit out of that after all cost. Am I right?



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