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Old 06-29-2012, 03:53 PM   #1
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I see a lot of talk about it not being necessary to do a secondary fermentation but I want to try it for myself so let's not get into the what's best..I'm just interested in trying it that's all.

Primary Imperial IPA / Barleywine (not sure yet) in Primary 3 weeks. I'm going to let it go one more week and ensure FG is stable.

I have 3 Glass Carboys so I'm going to move the primary to my counter attempting to not stir up any of the settled trub. Place siphon in carboy and a filter into the 2nd carboy to catch any trub that happens to make its way over.

Then, I'm going to add my dry hop bag to the secondary fermenter and ferment an additional week.


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Is this the proper way or am I missing one of the steps? I know this is straightforward for most of you but is there a temp I should use? Extra sanitation steps other than star-sanning the secondary before transferring? Since my wort is now beer, I wasn't going to do any sort of crazy sanitation.

Thanks. reason for hyper-filtering is because my last primary only DIPA had lots of hops in the keg when I transferred and it kept clogging my dip tube.
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Old 06-29-2012, 03:58 PM   #2
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Sounds good to me. Sanitize the secondary equipment and syphon and you're good to go.
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why would you filter? You need some yeast to go in there. And I am not sure you would be able to push beer through a filter with a straight siphon.
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I'm using this - http://www.midwestsupplies.com/stain...-diameter.html

Pictured here when I first got my kit -

It's not a fine plastic / nylon filter. It lets quite a bit through.


This is my siphoning setup....and with that filter, I've been getting a ton of sediment in my kegs. two of my 4 brews had stuck dip tubes from left over hops

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I'm using this - http://www.midwestsupplies.com/stain...-diameter.html

Pictured here when I first got my kit -

It's not a fine plastic / nylon filter. It lets quite a bit through.
I would be worried about oxygenating the beer through that.
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So, I guess the question is. How do I eliminate any sediment or at least eliminating most of the sediment so I'm not getting a stuck dip tube in my keg for the first 25% of the beer I pull. Huge hop sediment in the last 15 or so pints of beer from my DIPA.
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I definitely would not run it through a strainer. Lots of aeration is going to happen.
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Longer primaries give you more compact yeast cakes, which give you less trub. Secondary again reduces trub quite a bit.
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So, I guess the question is. How do I eliminate any sediment or at least eliminating most of the sediment so I'm not getting a stuck dip tube in my keg for the first 25% of the beer I pull. Huge hop sediment in the last 15 or so pints of beer from my DIPA.
In short, careful racking will do it. You do NOT want to strain any beer once fermentation has started. That will oxidize it. Filtering is done under c02, in a "closed" system so that the beer can't aerate at all. Oxygen is the death of beer.

One tip- the night before you rack to the clearing vessel ("bright tank"), move it to the racking area so that the sediment can resettle after being moved. Then when you rack, start the siphon in the middle of the beer, and lower the racking can as the level of the beer lowers. Stop when you start sucking up yeast and/or other trub. That will really minimize sediment. Another thing that really helps- put the carboy someplace COLD for a couple of days before the final transfer to the bottling bucket or keg. That causes much more suspended stuff to fall out- some yeast, hops debris, proteins, etc, and will give you a clearer beer. Rack only clear beer, and package only clear beer, and your beer will have far less stuff in it.
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Old 06-29-2012, 04:25 PM   #10
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Do you have a siphon clamp, so you can keep the auto siphon above the trub while racking? I bought one of these before bottling and it made it much easier. I transferred my 1st brew to a 2ndary, just to learn how to do it. it's easy and you'll get some stuff in the 2ndary.

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