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Old 07-21-2012, 06:14 AM   #11
vinnythering
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Okay, so considering that I don't have any EKG, with my current hop supply:

1 oz Sterling 7.2%
1 oz Fuggles 4 - 5.5%
1 oz Willamette 4.7%
2 oz Warrior 16.7%
2 oz Northern Brewer 8 - 10%
1 oz Chinook 11.8%


What would be your suggestion? I'm thinking this might be more appropriate:

1.00 oz Northern Brewer @ 60
0.25 oz Fuggles @ 60
0.75 oz Fuggles @ 15
0.25 oz Northern Brewer @ 15


This will give me ~42 IBUs.

Like I said before, I was very suspect of the advice to use Warrior, and to clarify, I didn't have my original hop schedule available for him (only quantities) at the time and he wasn't clear with when I should add the Warrior.

I can postpone this batch until I can get some EKG but my grain is milled and sitting in a paper bag so I don't want to wait too long. If I pick up some EKG how should I schedule my hop additions?


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Old 07-21-2012, 12:17 PM   #12
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Willamette is a Fuggles-derived variety. As you already have Fuggles in the mix, blending with the Willamette is probably the best route with what you have on hand. The Northern Brewer is OK but late additions aren't its strength. The Sterling could be tried as it has good flavor & aroma qualities and its Saaz like characteristics wouldn't overwhelm the Fuggles.



 
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:30 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by vinnythering View Post
Okay, so considering that I don't have any EKG, with my current hop supply:

1 oz Sterling 7.2%
1 oz Fuggles 4 - 5.5%
1 oz Willamette 4.7%
2 oz Warrior 16.7%
2 oz Northern Brewer 8 - 10%
1 oz Chinook 11.8%


What would be your suggestion? I'm thinking this might be more appropriate:

1.00 oz Northern Brewer @ 60
0.25 oz Fuggles @ 60
0.75 oz Fuggles @ 15
0.25 oz Northern Brewer @ 15


This will give me ~42 IBUs.

Like I said before, I was very suspect of the advice to use Warrior, and to clarify, I didn't have my original hop schedule available for him (only quantities) at the time and he wasn't clear with when I should add the Warrior.

I can postpone this batch until I can get some EKG but my grain is milled and sitting in a paper bag so I don't want to wait too long. If I pick up some EKG how should I schedule my hop additions?
I think the hop additions you have listed above look good. The 0.25oz of Northern Brewer will give some complexity to the hop flavor. Brew on!

 
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:07 PM   #14
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Willamette is a Fuggles-derived variety. As you already have Fuggles in the mix, blending with the Willamette is probably the best route with what you have on hand. The Northern Brewer is OK but late additions aren't its strength. The Sterling could be tried as it has good flavor & aroma qualities and its Saaz like characteristics wouldn't overwhelm the Fuggles.
+1. Willamette and Saaz.

 
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:26 PM   #15
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How about this:

1.00 oz Northern Brewer @ 60
0.50 oz Fuggles @ 15
0.50 oz Sterling @ 15
0.50 oz Willamette @ 15
0.33 oz Fuggles @ Flame-Out
0.33 oz Sterling @ Flame-Out
0.33 oz Willamette @ Flame-Out


This gives ~42.9 IBUs. I really only had the Northern Brewers as a late addition for IBU adjustment, but figured this might be a little better. I originally would have like to get Challenger to begin with, but you've got to work with what you can get and the Challenger seemed to be either completely unavailable or out of stock from everywhere I typically buy from. Anyway, I like the new hop schedule but I am always open to criticism.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:34 AM   #16
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I brewed this one up today and I'm pretty happy with it overall. The boil went smoothly and it tasted great. I measured an OG of 1.062, which is obviously higher than i had anticipated, but I'm assuming it's due to the fact that my kettle is a little on the small size and I can only get ~4.5 gallon batches without topping off. So that puts me a little out of style, but oh well. Works for me. I will update in two weeks when I rack to secondary.
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Old 08-12-2012, 06:42 PM   #17
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Man this beer is giving me a headache. It has a distinct flavor that I can't place... its not bad but definitely a little off. I will taste again when I bottle it and maybe it will clear up.
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Old 08-19-2012, 06:02 PM   #18
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Fusel alcohols can give you a headache. If the fermentation temp was too high you will get more fusels. Fusels can make a beer taste like you added cheap vodka to it.

 
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Old 08-19-2012, 06:35 PM   #19
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Haha nnooooooo not an actual headache. I meant like it is annoying me. Lol. There is something about the flavor that is bugging me. I can't place what it is but it is nothing like what I expected. Also, it is still very cloudy. I'm assuming this is from the yeast I used but even after 3 weeks it hasn't cleared at all. I will be bottling and tasting next weekend so hopefully by then everything balances out and it clears a little.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:36 AM   #20
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LOL! Which yeast did you use? Some yeast strains don't like to flocculate very well. If you can crash cool it that may help with the cloudiness.



 
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